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Liverpool FC - Talk /Gossip/Rumours 25/25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭Electric Nitwit


    Adam Clery did a really interesting video on him, worth a watch if you want to research (13mins)

    ... I'd not come across the idea that a CB pairing should be one cat, one dog before, actually makes loads of sense 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭ratracer


    I don’t think there is any plan to bring Quansah back, and certainly not in Slots time. He obviously wasn’t rated and was let go, the buy back seems very much a token effort to me given how high it is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,767 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    They have signed a good few young lads to play CB over the last two summers haven't they.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭jesuisjuste


    This is it, forget the manager, and consider that Konate is supposed to be in his prime. Jaquet and Leoni are just kids in comparison. If VVD walked out tomorrow we would be absolutely f*cked with Konate as the no. 1 defender. Simple as that. He’s not good enough for prime Liverpool.
    I’m ok to take a chance on kids for a year or two, or to get someone else in. But Konate to me is not god enough. It’s amazing how everybody goes nuts about the manager but half the squad is not good enough either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭jesuisjuste


    If a player decides not to sign a contract there is nothing you can do. Trent would have dragged us over the coals to sign, and he’s a scouse. The rest of the lads are just using the contract as leverage to get as much as they can. The club depreciates their value year on year. Times have changed. The agents know that by signing on they are giving the club an asset worth tens of millions, and they are extracting as much as they can in the negotiation.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,242 ✭✭✭Enzokk


    Konate was lambasted for some of his play this season, all of a sudden he is someone we just have to sign to a new contract no matter his demands. I would like to keep him, but we don't know his wage demands.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 593 ✭✭✭WealthyB


    To go from "Klopp has left a brilliant team" to needing a generational transfer window just to address glaring issues, and all in just 2 seasons, shows how quickly it can all fall apart. We are fcuked lads. Utterly fcuked. I've been saying we need a new manager since November but at this stage even a messianic figure like Klopp couldn't rescue this shitshow unless he had 3-4 solid seasons of patience, and multiple 10/10 transfer windows where every target not only hits, but becomes an Anfield legend. We are fcuked lads. Honestly can't see beyond 8th place next season with the current regime in tow. Hughes and Ward are disasters.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,946 ✭✭✭Pepp1989


    Ive seen this a bit but outside of trent and now ibou, what other premier league club is losing players coming into their peak years on a free. Pogba to Juve comes to mind alright. Are there more comparative ones? Should be happening all the time if times have changed so much.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,963 ✭✭✭Dr Robert




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,242 ✭✭✭Enzokk


    How many players have we seen leave on a free and we have missed? Think hard now for the last 10 years.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,242 ✭✭✭Enzokk


    I remember some saying we were screwed when Klopp left as he was the only glue keeping us together. Now it is 2 years after he left and we are screwed. Some were saying we would be lucky to finish 8th in Slot's first season. I will take random doom posts with a huge pinch of salt.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,963 ✭✭✭Dr Robert


    Not too many leave and go on to better things.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,831 ✭✭✭atilladehun


    There's some solace in that, but that doesn't mean the team is stronger without them. Liverpool and Trent worked. Liverpool have not worked since trent went off vs psg in 2025. Trent has not been successful since then either.

    Konate is a league winning first choice centre back. He shouldn't be the next cab off the free transfer rank



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,831 ✭✭✭atilladehun


    There's some solace in that, but that doesn't mean the team is stronger without them. Liverpool and Trent worked. Liverpool have not worked since trent went off vs psg in 2025. Trent has not been successful since then either.

    Konate is a league winning first choice centre back. He shouldn't be the next cab off the free transfer rank



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭54and56


    There's a huge amount of "I told you so" armchair experts on this thread who genuinely think that with absolutely zero experience or credentials to run a professional football club they know better and are in a position to criticise FSG's decisions with posts like "it's obvious" or "everyone knew" etc.

    It's actually hilarious how many keyboard warriors proclaim their often wrong but never in doubt opinion on club matters with great certainty which is so easy to do when, unlike the actual decisions made by FSG, there is no downside or consequences to their pretend decisions.

    Makes for entertaining reading though in fairness.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,988 ✭✭✭Ottoman_1000


    Klopp did leave behind a brilliant team, and as we know, that team went on to win the league. However, there is one huge caveat: it was built around several once-in-a-generation players who are now unfortunately entering the twilight of their careers.

    You can have four or five transfer windows to prepare, but the reality is that we may never see players of the calibre of Alisson, Virg, Robertson, or Salah again in our lifetimes. I've been following Liverpool for over five decades, and they're the best players I've seen in their respective positions. For me, Hansen and Virg are probably the two greatest defenders in the club's history.

    The comedown was always going to be significant given the quality and influence of the players we eventually have to replace. But ee have faced challenges like this before and have always found a way to rebuild. That's why I'm still optimistic.

    I don't expect us to win the league in the next season or two, but if we recruit well during that period and continue developing the outstanding young talent already at the club, we'll give ourselves every chance of building the next great Liverpool side. The future may look different, but there's every reason to believe it can still be a very bright one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,304 ✭✭✭cunnifferous


    God your posts are a bore. Perhaps we should just sticky the top of the thread with 'FSG know best' and close the thread?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,946 ✭✭✭Pepp1989


    Im not hugely bothered about Ibou moving on if he wanted more than the club were willing to pay him.

    I am bothered that its another sellable asset leaving for nothing when we need the money to reinvest in the squad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 649 ✭✭✭bdmc16


    Whats nuts is how much recency bias some posters have also. Konate and VVD were arguably the best CB pairing in world football first half of last season before Ibou got injured. He was crucial part of us winning the league. The longer Slot has had at Liverpool the worse every player has looked including VVD and Ali. Konate is easily is a 60-70m player, prem winning French international and you'll be hard pressed to find someone to come in better in for that money. You'll take a chance with kids coming in but not on the fact konate form would improve with a new manager?

    I agree he's had a poor season but VVD has looked really poor as well. Why do you think if VVD walked out tomorrow we'd be fooked but konate leaving is somehow acceptable. Losing Trent, Robbo, Salah and konate for 10m is absolutely terrible mananagement from Hughes and Co. I'm stunned with whats happened this team since we have lifted the trophy this time year. It's unrecognisable and not in a good way



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,545 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    You really are a glass half full kind of guy!!!!!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,524 ✭✭✭brevity


    We’ll be fine. It’s exciting in its own way



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,076 ✭✭✭Damien360


    I generally support those who swim against the tide. And you are most definitely one of the few remaining in this thread that refuse to criticise the club.

    But you are not putting up any arguments to the contrary other than "I told you so" yourself.

    The season has been a disaster. We scrapped over the line for CL. Literally just by other teams not performing.

    Your only defence of Slot is he won the league. He did but with whose squad. He definitely changed tactics compared to Klopp but it's one dimensional and it seems others have figured it out. A good manager should have more than one plan. Chucking all attack on with 10mins to go is not a plan.

    The evidence of our demise as a good team started around the Carbaro cup and not just here has pointed that out. All of us missed it at the time as we thought it was season in the bag. The first 5 games were wins this season but they were brutal performances and again we all missed the signs. After that, the team painted the signs of their demise.

    You can't give Slot all the positives without allowing him take the negatives. It works both ways. Congrats on the title but now explain the dreadful performances.

    Unfortunately the negatives outweigh the positives going forward. The future does not look bright with Slot in charge.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,988 ✭✭✭Ottoman_1000


    Thats the problem with Konate, on his day he could look world class. But when he's poor, he's exceptional poor. Let's not forget that it was only over 2 years when Klopp dropped him because of back to back errors. He only ever started 2 more games from Klopp in the PL after that and it was well reported that he was going to move that summer only for Slot wanted to hold onto him.

    I'm not concerned that we're losing Konate, I'm just concerned that we won't replace him in anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭jesuisjuste


    This is not true. VVD has oozed class, and sure has made a few mistakes here and there but he has been probably the best defender in the world for 5 or 6 seasons, and top 5 for the other 2 or 3. To actually put Konate in the same league as him is an absolute disservice Jesus.
    Konate is not and has never been at anywhere near the same level as VVD. you are delusional if you think so. We have not signed a world class CB in almost 10 years now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,545 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    Robertson and Jota were really close and maybe one of the reasons he wanted to leave in January,to try get away from the daily reminders of losing a friend.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭jesuisjuste


    Not even just on a free, there are only a handful of decent players who have left and improved at all in the last couple of decades including sold. Diaz is the latest imo, and the first in a while. I can hardly think of another.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,524 ✭✭✭brevity


    I wonder is it the reason that Kerkez was in the first team really early on. Perhaps Robbo just couldn’t face it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 649 ✭✭✭bdmc16


    You have absolutely misunderstood and twisted my comment. VVD is on another universe to konate through his time at liverpool but last season it's deluded to say he oozed class. He's the best CB I've seen since I've supported liverpool but he's not beyond criticism for last season which is what I've speaking about . VVD and konate both played their part in us leaking goals this season especially late on in game. If konate leaving okay, but losing another 70m player that I've seen PSG, real and barca fans all gladly saying they'll take him it's shocking. Prime VVD is many levels above prime konate but konate absolutely is alot better than some are saying on here and there absolutely no upside to Losing him on a free bar wages saved in the bank. Very disappointing to lose him



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,620 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    Suarez and Aspas both did well after leaving. Perhaps Ings too and Harry Wilson is doing pretty good.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭bike2wkr


    He's had a bad season. Imo as he hasn't had the likes of quansah pushing him for his place. He's definitely a loss but gives jacquet a chance to establish himself. He would not have been worth a big contract



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