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Do you use AI?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,594 ✭✭✭corkie


    Just a follow up om my Google Antigravity research using perplexity.ai to try and figure out the process involved.

    Google Antigravity can possibly produce the code required for a project but you would still would need Android Studio!

    Antigravity’s own app-building examples describe generating the project and artifacts, but the APK/build step is still typically handled afterward in Android Studio rather than entirely as a browser-only final delivery.

    So the linked article was missing a lot of detail on what it can actually do for you?

    Before I install studio, I might see what 'Google Antigravity' can make of my extension and would it be even possible to propose a modular Android WebView architecture for it?

    If I make any progress with it, I will post again. Now to install 'Google Antigravity' and make initial prompts on the free plan, I will be weekly rate limited so it maybe a few weeks development process.

    Edit: - Did the above and give another AI a look at my current code, that grew from a simple one file content.js script (and ballooned up with code as I added more features).

    The Android plan merely made the existing weaknesses more obvious by forcing the code to be described as architecture rather than as one continuously grown script.

    The good news is that this does not mean the extension is “broken”; it means you are at the point where structural cleanup will now give disproportionate benefit. The duplicate blocks and broad startup flow are already visible enough that a modest refactor would likely make both debugging and future feature additions much easier.

    Ironically I am using one AI to summarize the output given by another. So If I proceed down the android WebView process I will have to refactor and clean up my extension code first before I even try. All for something that is mainly for my own use and shared if someone else finds it useful.

    Post edited by corkie on

    "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." ~ George Santayana
    "But that's balanced out by the fact that it's a mandate not to do very much." ~ Prof. Eoin O'Malley



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,844 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    i use it quite a bit. codex is a great help for coding. i developed a platform that will take content and automatically create a website with it and do all your social media content creation and posting, all based on AI.

    It like the internet was. It's here now and isnt going away. May get used to it and start using it as it gives anyone a great advantage (at the minute). plus it will get much, much, much more expensive so only the more wealthy will have the better AI so I say use it now and use it to generate money while is basically free (or very cheap)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,636 ✭✭✭Cordell


    From music making to arts to coding AI tools are here to stay, so we either adapt and embrace them or get left behind.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 317 ✭✭Resplendent Moose


    I use it as a replacement for search.

    Standard internet search has been so badly broken by the providers that I find I get better results from a quick, well-targetted AI query these days; it just filters out all the bullshit I'd otherwise get back in search results.

    Has it occurred to me that this might be the search providers way of steering people towards their AI engines? Of course it has.

    A personal invitation to dance, as Nero plays for the last time
    Tonight you will mix with the prophets without honour...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,390 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Find AI is good for numbers tasks lists - I was wondering who had the top 10 average attendances per capita in both hurling and football. Including league and championship. After some correction and rechecking and more direction I had two lists detailed etc

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,939 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    I wanted to create an Android app but it seems that Android Studio won't run on my old ThinkPad.

    For coding, what I tend to do though is discuss the project with ChatGPT and ask it to generate a spec which I then supply to Codex.

    Also, as Codex runs in your local terminal, it can be used for non coding tasks like automation. I'm on the OpenAI Plus plan for €23 per month.

    Does Antigravity require a Gemini subscription to work sufficiently well?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,594 ✭✭✭corkie


    @igCorcaigh I actually gave up on the idea of creating an APK, due to strict rules of the apk store and needing approval from Boards.ie to get it even published. Wasn't worth the effort for just side loading apks.

    I would treat a WebView APK as a worthwhile exploratory side path, but not yet as a mainline product decision. The strongest caution flags are store publication risk, dependence on Boards.ie content and branding, and the fact that plain WebView wrappers face higher scrutiny unless they add clear native value beyond just showing a website.

    If Android Studio won't run, can you possibly install just android sdk on your laptop. « 2021 guide linked.

    "Does Antigravity require a Gemini subscription to work sufficiently well?"

    I just picked the free version for testing. But there is plans starting at Google AI Pro (21.99 per month).

    Post edited by corkie on

    "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." ~ George Santayana
    "But that's balanced out by the fact that it's a mandate not to do very much." ~ Prof. Eoin O'Malley



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,594 ✭✭✭corkie


    If going the SDK route, you would also need the below?

    1. Java Development Kit (JDK) - Required Pre-requisite

    Before you can run the Android build tools or Gradle (the build system), you must have Java installed on your machine.

    You will need JDK 17 (or newer, but 17 is the current sweet spot for Android builds).

    You can get this from Adoptium (Eclipse Temurin) or Oracle.

    2. Android SDK Components - Downloaded via commandlinetools

    Once you extract the command-line tools zip and set up Java, we will need to run the sdkmanager.bat script to fetch three crucial packages:

    platforms;android-34 (The core Android framework APIs to compile against)

    build-tools;34.0.0 (The tools that actually package the resources and code into an .apk)

    platform-tools (Optional but highly recommended, contains adb which you need if you want to push the APK to your phone via USB cable)

    Edit: - Damn anyway, I use to have all the above tools on an old broken laptop/desktop for installing custom roms etc. Not going to the trouble of installing again just to test antigravity features.

    Post edited by corkie on

    "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." ~ George Santayana
    "But that's balanced out by the fact that it's a mandate not to do very much." ~ Prof. Eoin O'Malley



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,746 ✭✭✭silliussoddius




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,266 ✭✭✭Neowise


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    how old is that?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,594 ✭✭✭corkie


    Is 'VIBE' Coding apk's becoming a thing now?

    Also convert html/js to an apk: - https://html2app.dev/ ~ required a sign in so didn't bother trying that.

    Google is positioning AI Studio as the browser-based product surface and Antigravity as the broader agent/development platform underneath or alongside it. Google’s I/O 2026 developer announcement says native Android vibe coding in AI Studio is part of the broader Antigravity ecosystem, and that managed agents in the Gemini API and AI Studio are powered by the Antigravity harness.

    And no way am I agreeing to the below to test AI Studio?

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    Post edited by corkie on

    "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." ~ George Santayana
    "But that's balanced out by the fact that it's a mandate not to do very much." ~ Prof. Eoin O'Malley



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,594 ✭✭✭corkie


    image.png

    Luckily I use duck-duck-go as my main search engine in my browser.

    More of AI gone wrong, could not stop LOL on the above, I got struck of youtube because of AI!

    "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." ~ George Santayana
    "But that's balanced out by the fact that it's a mandate not to do very much." ~ Prof. Eoin O'Malley



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭zweton




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭zweton




  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,939 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    And of course I forgot to do it! Thanks for the reminder. I'll let you know how it goes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,594 ✭✭✭corkie


    I like it but you need your wits active when using it to 'VIBE' code as it can loose focus on the objective and go on sideway paths, or change declaration variables mid workflow and end up with conflicting code. Also could prompt you to replace a function for improvements, but strip out other needed code in it at the same time. Then if something goes wrong and you weren't been observant with code changes, send you down a completely wrong debugging path.

    I got use to its quirks and process of doing things so I understand how to make the most of it. I said it before but if anyone says 'VIBE' coding is easy they haven't used it for a complicated project.

    I gave AI Studio a trial run on converting a simple extension into a web view apk, last night. Spent a good few hours on the attempt without a satisfactory apk produced. I may try again when I update the extension to use a shadow dom, overlay so the code doesn't inherit the web page styling in web view apk. Based on my testing I don't think the studio is production ready yet.

    "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." ~ George Santayana
    "But that's balanced out by the fact that it's a mandate not to do very much." ~ Prof. Eoin O'Malley



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,594 ✭✭✭corkie


    After more hours of attempts with AI Studio, manage to get it to produce successful proof-of-concept and experimental build of my Telly Bingo Viewer Extension (apk download).

    The AI Studio needs precise instructions to prevent it from making it's own interpretation of what you want it to do, example prompt below from my work flow, even with that it still read the command in it to make it always visible, even when it should be toggled.

    Would I try the process with my more complicated Boards Cleaner extension, it would need to be redrafted to handle limitations of displaying overlays or modals in a webview, my experimental build above needed a full screen viewer overlay, because without it the viewer was been reduced to a one-line viewer.

    "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." ~ George Santayana
    "But that's balanced out by the fact that it's a mandate not to do very much." ~ Prof. Eoin O'Malley



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 29,957 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Don't use any of them at all - professionally or personally. Certainly would never pay my own money for it.

    I've already seen complaints from senior managers in the office about staff handing in reports and presentations that are obviously AI generated, generic, and often just wrong, with no consideration of the specific use cases or environment they're being suggested for.

    Maybe I'm just getting old, but my role is primarily service operations and relationship management and I'd agree that it's making people very lazy already in my experience. Creating say a process document or report yourself forces you to think through what you're saying as opposed to just pasting some AI generated content that may or may not be right at all into a template.

    About the only thing I could think of using it for is automated minute taking in meetings. Anything else would probably take me longer to review than just doing it myself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,396 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    I like the AI tools in photoshop as it speeds up tasks that were previously very time consuming.

    I hope it doesn't take over photo editing completely though. The lines are already getting blured as to what is and isn't a photo. Some photo sharing sites will remove your photo if it was edited with AI.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 163 ✭✭XopherIE


    I use it now and again for work related stuff, to speed up email typing or to make it look more professional. All work has to be doubled checked as I tried to use it to reply to a client before about a tax calculation and everything about it was completely wrong advice and even the calculation was wrong. Do I trust it? No not completely yet and I believe it is just a tool more than a replacement.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,636 ✭✭✭Cordell


    It's a tool that can do, in some cases, 80% of the work a team does, so it will make management believe that team can be "right-sized" by 80%. So for those unlucky it will be a tool and a replacement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 163 ✭✭XopherIE


    I wouldn't agree with that but I think it does speed up some of the more tedious tasks. I know for the likes of other industries however it might be a major game changer so would be interested to see what they think now too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,930 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    I use AI for so much both in my day job and my "side hustle".

    My main AI is chatgpt (which I use both as an end user directly and also with API calls) but i also use others like notebookLM and Gemini, even Seedance.

    As part of my job I use chatgpt and claude



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 163 ✭✭XopherIE


    Do you think your job/side hustle relies on it or just speeds up the process of the tedious side of it?



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,939 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    ChatGPT's connection with Spotify is really handy for creating playlists.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 163 ✭✭XopherIE




  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,939 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    This is the problem, but hopefully one that happens less as the models improve.

    Still though, LLMs have this inherent capacity to hallucinate or mess things up. We will need another layer around the AI to check for these errors. But that in itself may also become unreliable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 352 ✭✭pauly58


    I've just bought a Mooer F40i Li guitar amp with AI. You enter in a band, guitarist, particular song or even a particular sound, such as clean with delay & reverb, it then gives you three different sounds. Not always bang on for songs sometimes but pretty impressive nonetheless.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,939 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    ChatGPT connectors. You can integrate with different services and let ChatGPT automate the service interaction.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 163 ✭✭XopherIE


    Nope again never knew, I literally just use it for the basic tedious job related stuff. Or if I don't know what to cook something on 😂



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