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Irish drivers.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,717 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Cycling completely changed how I drive. Every adult driver should spend a year on a bike as an adult to understand the real impact they have on others.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,951 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Dublin probably is the most pedestrian friendly place in Ireland. It's still very pedestrian unfriendly. Covid-widened footpaths still not wide enough, junctions that take 2 or 3 sets of lengthy waits at lights to cross, drivers and cyclists don't respect pedestrian crossings.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 564 ✭✭✭GPoint


    +1 for driving with L plates when your kids starts learning driving.

    Undercuts, beeps, overtakes, tailgating.

    That is balanced by good amount of people who try to let you out of junctions etc but in general it does feel intimidating.

    I don’t change my driving style when I am in the car with L plates, never slow or anything it’s just some drivers need to bully L drivers.

    N plates improve this very much but still get some idiots who try and teach you a lesson and then will sit and lane hog in front of you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,062 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    In many ways N drivers are the worst of them all.

    Not learners anymore, but with little or no experience, assuming they're done with the process of learning how to drive.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 18,246 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    Wouldn't it be a better idea to simply display the correct plate?

    L or N or none at all.

    Magnetic L and N plates are a great idea for a car with multiple drivers.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,986 ✭✭✭yagan


    Ireland is a doozy compared to most places in the world. The worst I experienced in the EU was driving in Sicily, and many Italians from north Italy were impressed that I gave it a go.

    I did live in north west England for a few years and like the M50 the M60 around Manchester seems to create its own bad behaviour patterns, but then the further you went north the more easy going and relaxed everyone got.

    When we moved to Dublin the m50 felt easy compared to the M60, and then when we moved to the south coast that felt way more relaxed driving than Dublin! But ask a Cork driver and they'll tell you Cork drivers are the worst in the world.

    The most terrifying trip I took was an overnight bus in Vietnam where they were racing eachother, overtaking on corners etc..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,331 ✭✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    Don't worry with more cars, more people and more wealth disparity we'll get their soon. 😁

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,870 ✭✭✭sprucemoose


    having lived and driven in canada (and the us on a good few occasions) for the last few years, i would say the general standard of driving is much, much better and safer in ireland (although not perfect obviously)

    others have mentioned lack of use of indicators in ireland - 'blinkers' in NA might as well be non-existent and when they are used, they are usually turned on halfway through the actual maneuver rather than indicating the intention.

    roundabouts are actually quite common where i am but i think i am yet to see one being used properly (exaggerating of course).

    some of it is down to street/road design too and not necessarily the fault of the driver themselves - 4 way stops are the most stupid invention ever and some of the placement of pedestrian crossings belies belief. i also find parking is allowed way too close to corners/ junctions which, combined with the larger sizes of cars in general, can make visibility almost impossible

    the one thing i will say that generally works better here (in my opinion anyway) is the etiquette around emergency vehicles - rather than pulling to the left/ out of the way, everyone just stops (unless in a dangerous position or if obviously blocking their path) and the vehicle is able to weave through traffic pretty easily or drive the 'wrong' way down the street if needed.

    i'll be driving briefly in spain next week so i'm interested to see how that will compare



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 564 ✭✭✭GPoint


    There is a correct plate. I was referring to the time when I had L driver in the family . Now they are N driver . And so I compared the attitude of other drivers to a car with L plate vs N plate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,986 ✭✭✭yagan


    @sprucemoose

    Those bloody four junctions are a real nuisance, thankfully not a thing here.

    Anytime I introduce a yank to a roundabout for the first time I can sense their brain losing traction.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,795 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    I drove in good few countries in Europe, but Ireland is without the doubt the absolute worst. Significant amount of people just can't drive properly, every single day I come across some idiot who creates non standard situation. Malta was wild, but it's common for them to drive drunk there. It still felt better driving there than in Cork. Spain, France, Portugal, Germany, all of Eastern Europe a lot better than Ireland. Traffic flows at reasonable pace everywhere, people know what they're doing all the time. Rarely you come across non standard situation. In Cork it's on daily basis, spas are everywhere all the time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,062 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    For comparison purposes, what is your home country?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭byrne249


    I've noticed myself racing for that orange light many a time and then watching pedestrian crossing lights on for as long if not longer than the road traffic, and asked myself are the lights less efficient here than on the continent. Could also be the fact the elderly lady at the front of the queue takes a business meeting to get up and moving and they're almost red again.
    The overt politeness is a double edged sword, people backing up a moving lane of traffic to let one car out of a side road causes more traffic people



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,887 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    I notice that at road works traffic lights that have a countdown display to green that people move off more quickly.

    Maybe if we had a red-amber-green sequence like in the UK it would help to speed things up also.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,956 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Overall Irish driving is not bad. Most drivers are courteous and patient.

    Biggest issue is motorway driving as it's not tested. People do not know how to join motorway. You do not join at 50-60kph if traffic is moving at 100-120kph.

    There's no such thing as fast or slow lane.

    Stop going to middle lane and just driving in it.

    Exit : Join the exit lane at the start and prepare for it by being in the left hand lane.

    Outside of motorways. Stop driving in bus lanes, especially if turning left 1km down the road

    Red lights. People are breaking these more frequently. Technology needs to be installed to stop this.

    Parking: Drives me crazy how people park up on footpaths here and it never gets punished.

    Number plates: I hate all these fancy plates with different fonts and black flags. Just shows how people think the rules of the road don't apply to them. Gardai not have tech to stop this but just don't do it.

    Finally, over benevolence. Too many drivers stop or slow down to let people out or turn right. It causes confusion and issues and it would be much simpler to keep on driving and let traffic clear. A few times I have had this and it causes traffic behind them and can lead to accidents.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 564 ✭✭✭GPoint


    The extra courtesy letting people out is just ridiculous! My local shop is off the main road and the entrance is where the main road bends. The island for turning right into the shop is for 1 car and a lot of people would stop well in advance and waive people out exiting the shop. They don’t even realize that when exiting the shop it is impossible to see behind them because of the bend. And if those cars decide to exit they risk an accident because the cars on the main road move at full speed not realising the idiot turning right decided to let out someone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,062 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Most of what you describe as courtesy or benevolence is often a lack of basic confidence.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,887 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    That sounds like an accident waiting to happen.

    Perhaps a re-design of the entry/exit is needed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,951 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    This happens at a T-junction near me all the time. Someone will stop and invite the driver which doesn't have the right of way to proceed, not noticing / caring that they are beckoning them out right into the path of someone else. Then the second driver either causes / nearly causes an accident, or doesn't go and the first driver takes it as some sort of a personal insult that they didn't pull out when beckoned. Now all arms of the junction are stopped and nobody knows who is going to blink first.

    Just follow the rules instead of making up your own. But the other side of this coin is people needlessly blocking junctions when there isn't room for them to exit the junction, meaning those on the side road can't exit it

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,200 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    I see that all the time. Likewise, driver on the main run of a crossroads beckoning drivers on the minor roads to proceed before they then make a right turn by cutting the corner instead on taking the turn as it's intended to be taken.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 564 ✭✭✭GPoint


    Another one of those courteous drivers examples is when they slow down too much on 80kmh road to let out someone. Very rare but I do see it, especially in more rural areas.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,951 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    A huge proportion of drivers just can't turn right without making a complete arse of it.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 564 ✭✭✭GPoint


    Some people merging onto motorway or carriageway from the slip road think they have a right of way. Will try and cut across in front. Had few near misses, one was recorded on dash camera but I lost it, would otherwise post it here. Understandably when traffic is crawling you are expected to be courteous and let cars to merge in, but if you are driving full speed why the hell would you brake to 80 from 120 to let them in!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭XopherIE


    Ireland drivers lack a lot of things. I'd say around 80 percent of the population that can drive in Ireland don't know how to use the motorway correctly. Like the outside lane is not for sitting in for to begin with. The next issue dispute the amount of signs about no tractors, L plates and Cyclists you will still spot them from time to time.

    Country roads may have a speed limit of 80km, this does not mean you need to go that speed constantly and the lack of awareness is just amazing. I've went for one walk with my daughter since has been born around the area of which I live in and it was more of anxiety filled rollercoaster compared to a nice evening stroll. Between cars flying around bends that they can't see around and not giving enough space either.

    And then there's the biggest issue on Irish roads at the moment. Distracted driving and people on their mobiles. I honestly think this is out of control now and it is only going to get worse until something is actually done about it. I've seen literally everything in my morning commutes to men shaving themselves in their car whilst stopped in traffic, to women applying makeup in their mirrors and to people watching tiktok/youtube whilst driving their car.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 Bobh2011


    Thing that drives me crazy is motorways and people sitting in the right lane and then all of a sudden deciding to turn off a slip road and slamming on the brakes and even causing cars to stop in the left lane and even stopping themselves if their is a traffic jam on the slip.

    Not to mention the constant lane hogging 🤬



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 258 ✭✭BestWestern


    Having lived in Germany for five years, I can confidently say they are the best drivers in Europe. We lived in western Germany, and in comparison, the Belgian drivers are aggressive and the Dutch have no road awareness. Since I've come home, I find that many Irish drivers have no lane discipline. Theres also a disregard for for the law here with tailgating and mobile phone use that you don't see in Germany for example.

    Tractors on motorways with the drivers on the phone are a uniquely Irish experience, as are car trailers with no lights and items not secured properly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭XopherIE


    And when they decide to do the three lane cut, they don't even use the indicator just pull out and hope for the best that the person behind is actually a better driver than them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,235 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    Its funny though how the problem is perceived as 'driving below the speed limit'. No issues with driving above it, which happens a lot more frequently.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭XopherIE


    Driving below the speed limit in the middle lane causes issues due to people sitting behind them with road rage who would instead of waiting behind them would overtake that person dangerously to just get past them. Drivingly slowly is not worse than speeding and vice versa. Both are bad and both have negative consequences.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    What a nice thread. Better than the other 70% where we love to run ourselves down especially with the cringy "only in ireland" term and attitude.



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