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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,959 ✭✭✭csirl


    RTE tells us Marty is popular with the GAA crowd....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,303 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    You're mistaken if you think I'm an RTE spokesperson.

    Have you any evidence he isn't?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,959 ✭✭✭csirl


    Im a big sports fan and I hang out with other sports fans. Anecdotally most in my circle would prefer a proper commentator.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,303 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,145 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I am guessing that they wouldn't stop watching GAA on RTÉ should he depart. People watch sports mainly for the sport and their team.

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,732 ✭✭✭Viscount Aggro


    WTF does Marty Morrissey know about plants?

    I thought he was a GAA presenter… now he is RTE anchor for Bloom, a commercial operation that is not part of RTE.

    And Aine Lawlor… I thought she was retired and gone from RTE. I F****** cant stand her.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,135 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    so if you’re popular with the GAA crowd the rules don’t apply to you then? Ok, got it.

    Yes, the salary is enormous, I understand that, but that doesn't affect my soul.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,135 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    Both Kenny and Tubridy’s exits had no negative effect on audience numbers. In fact both Sean O’Rourke and Oliver Callan grew the audiences steadily for each time slot post their more known predecessors. It is therefore a fact that in those cases the names had no impact on audience - despite RTÉ’s (and your) claims.

    The only logical conclusion any reasonable person can draw from that is they were overpaid.

    Yes, the salary is enormous, I understand that, but that doesn't affect my soul.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,135 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    Does taking a party of 10+ to the RWC in Japan at a cost of €19,000+ per person count amongst these “few freebies”?

    Freebies are flip flops. The trip above was a junket.

    Big difference.

    Yes, the salary is enormous, I understand that, but that doesn't affect my soul.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,135 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    Are you an employee of or associated in any way with RTÉ or NKM (past or present)?

    Yes, the salary is enormous, I understand that, but that doesn't affect my soul.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,989 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Not everyone who thinks RTE isn’t a hotbed of debauchery, and thievery, automatically works for them. Bit of nuance, pal.

    “It matters not what someone is born, but what they grow to be” - A. Dumbledore

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,878 ✭✭✭Dublin Calling


    But the opposite was true of Ray D'Arcys departure. His replacement Louise Duffy lost almost 10% of the audience!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,135 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    We are many things, but we are not “pals”.

    Not the first time you’ve responded to a question asked of @Cyclingtourist. Intriguing. Did you perhaps forget which account you were posting from there? 🤔

    It’s a perfectly legitimate question to ask given the poster defends RTÉ and NKM at it seems every possible opportunity.

    Yes, the salary is enormous, I understand that, but that doesn't affect my soul.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,135 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


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    Could there be trouble ahead for The Toyman’s Sunday pre-recorded show that barely gets mentioned anywhere these days? The London gig could be in jeopardy too with this news.

    Yes, the salary is enormous, I understand that, but that doesn't affect my soul.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,135 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    https://www.hotpress.com/film-tv/ryan-tubridy-i-was-in-the-eye-of-a-very-very-mean-storm-23142967


    More tales from The Toyman! More self pity and a rather one-sided take on matters Oireachtas hearing and his relations with RTÉ staff.

    The Toyman is rather a forgetful chap at times. He mentions about a proposed book with a crime writer who he won’t reveal, except listeners to his now axed Virgin radio show know he’s referring to Ragnar Jónasson as he mentioned this more than once (to put it mildly). Maybe Ragnar read “Patrick and the President” or the Hilary the Sheep book and had a change of heart?

    Rather like TalkSport and the gig that we were told was happening but still no sign of….intriguing.


    The whole article is essentially a vehicle for promoting the Dublin leg of the Bookshelf podcast tour and another effort at changing the narrative around The Ryan Tubridy Pay Scandal.

    Yes, the salary is enormous, I understand that, but that doesn't affect my soul.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,303 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    Interesting article in the IT by Diarmaid Ferriter on RTE's relationship with politicians and criticism focused on presenter's pay.

    "On RTÉ Radio this month, Minister for Communications Patrick O’Donovan said: “I’m trying to get people to have faith in the public service broadcaster. We’re trying to get people to go back into their post office and pay their licence fee. And, invariably, people are going to ask, ‘For what?"

    "More recently, attention has switched to the highest-paid broadcasters. The appearance of RTÉ executives before Oireachtas committees has generated much performative outrage for the cameras. It is certainly appropriate that the spending of public money is scrutinised, but there is also the continuity of troubling assertions that suggest politicians are in charge of RTÉ."

    "RTÉ should be accountable for its use of public money, but what has been focused on in recent years is far too selective."

    RTÉ should be accountable for its spending, but critics’ focus is too selective – The Irish Times

    I tend to agree but 'names' are clickbait and executives aren't.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,145 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Indeed I thought this quote was good

    When Hugh Leonard was television critic for Hibernia magazine in 1972 he wrote: “If RTÉ were to be metamorphosised into a single human shape, that person would be a slouching corner boy who now and again makes a literate remark out of the corner of his poor mouth. Money may provide the wretch with clothes, but it will not, of itself, cure either his laziness or his ignorance.

    See thing is your posting to a forum that from the begin was more interest in the Head honcho at RTÉ rather then the "names" that she overvalued.

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,135 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    Dee Forbes is an executive. Kevin Bakhurst is an executive. Geraldine O’Leary was an executive. As were Collins, Coveney, Jennings et al.

    In relation to The Ryan Tubridy Pay Scandal all of those names are to varying degrees as much click bait as The Toyman himself. Some were at the very centre of it and party to the dodgy dealings for which The Toyman’s agent provided invoices from another company (CMS, not NKM).

    As for Ferriter, The Toyman has referred to him as a friend, therefore this article is not exactly wholly unbiased is it?

    Yes, the salary is enormous, I understand that, but that doesn't affect my soul.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,135 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


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    it never ends…..


    Turns out it was on “compassionate” grounds rather than a fear of legal action that prompted RTÉ to pay D’Arcy €50k for doing nothing. That’s VERY compassionate and VERY generous of them with taxpayers money of course.

    Yes, the salary is enormous, I understand that, but that doesn't affect my soul.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,646 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/ray-darcy-contract-fine-print-meant-rte-didnt-have-to-pay-him-50000/a/153556669.html

    The contract ran for two years, for 2024 and 2025, but “may be terminated by either party by serving four weeks’ written notice on the other”.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 670 ✭✭✭Coolcormack1979


    will Ray mention that on his pod if it’s still going😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,303 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,135 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    Clickbait? It’s intriguing that you’d describe the continued reporting on the waste of taxpayers money at the state broadcaster as such.

    I also thought you were only concerned with NKM stars? I’m sure Mr. D’Arcy will be delighted to know you’re fighting his corner valiantly on boards.ie

    A few things Ray and The Toyman now have in common is they’re both ex-RTÉ, they were both deemed surplus to requirements at the state broadcaster, both were remunerated far beyond their “talents” for years, both have extremely high opinions of themselves, both made headlines for work they didn’t do but were paid for, and both now have podcasts that barely register audience-wise. Intriguing indeed.

    Yes, the salary is enormous, I understand that, but that doesn't affect my soul.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,145 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Ray, Ryan, all overvalued by Forbes, O'Leary, Coveney, Doherty, Lynch. And so on.

    But I was just thinking about RTÉ over the last decade: -

    1. In 2016 funding Children's content was significantly cut, so far no increase, we wait until 2025 AR to see if anything has changed.

    Based on 2024 annual report RTÉ spent a total of €5.5m on children's content, incurring a decrease of about 100k from 2023.

    2. Drama: There are 3 areas were RTÉ fund drama, in-house productions (Fair City), independent productions and Co-productions.

    Total spend on Drama for TV in 2024 was €19m this compares to €23m in 2023 a drop of €4m, of which a total of 11.5 hours were commission in 2023 at a total cost of €3.3million for TV or €286,000 per hour. In 2024 just 7.5 hours were commissioned costing a total of 1.85m or €246,000 per hour.

    The third aspect of TV drama production comes from RTÉ's Acquisitions department, these are not reported in the commissioning annual report as RTÉ does not provide them with funding of over 25%.

    In 2024 the acquisition department spent €7.2m on Irish acquisitions, an increase from €5.4m in 2023. This also includes programming outside drama.

    I wonder, How committed are RTÉ to drama, Fair City being their only hope!

    3. Comedy can come under the heading of Drama or Entertainment in the Independent Commissioning's annual report, the only comedy from RTÉ is it own farce.

    4. In terms of news and current affairs on TV, cutting 2FM and RTÉ 2 news programming, do we see any improvement in online news and current affairs, with no audience figures for either.

    5. Little to no original content on RTÉ2, while 2FM gets public funding as it continues to see audiences fall.

    6. Over the past 3 years there is no improvement on RTÉ's output.

    7. And back to our summer breaks, Today off the air until Sept, this compares to the year round productions of Ireland AM and The Six O'clock show. This leads to the summer break for news and current affairs output, with News on TV and Radio both cut significantly in August. 

    No RTÉ are a failed public service broadcaster.

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,135 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    Interesting that the Exec let Terence O’Rourke go on Primetime armed with incorrect and inaccurate information. I would assume he would be “suitably miffed” at that so to speak.


    Will there be any consequences for whoever gave him the information or for O’Rourke himself? Given it’s RTÉ, probably not.

    Yes, the salary is enormous, I understand that, but that doesn't affect my soul.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,135 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


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    What a headline! Haven’t heard “sickened” used like this since I was a teenager.

    Seems like The Toyman decided to lean fully into the “what I did for my summer holidays” primary school prose style by writing a London Diary on that topic. Intriguing.

    Elsewhere in the actual papers The Toyman’s replacement on TLLS wants a commitment from RTÉ that he can move the show away from the fluff and county music / GAA / Valentine’s Day specials type show that were hallmarks of The Toyman’s reign into a hard hitting interview type show. He wants the show to “go hard” apparently. Also intriguing,

    Yes, the salary is enormous, I understand that, but that doesn't affect my soul.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,646 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,135 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


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    No RTÉ canteen for Mr. Bakhurst. Old habits die hard in RTÉ it seems.

    Perhaps they should change “Truth Matters” to “Because we’re worth it”?


    With NKM and RTÉ starlet Mark Moriarty about to open a new restaurant not too far from Donnybrook I wonder if KB will dine there?

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    Yes, the salary is enormous, I understand that, but that doesn't affect my soul.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,135 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


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    When is a redundancy not a redundancy? When it’s an RTÉ redundancy.

    Yes, the salary is enormous, I understand that, but that doesn't affect my soul.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,878 ✭✭✭Dublin Calling


    This is not the first false redundancy. Was it the CFO's redundancy that KB said RTE paid the back taxes on the 'tax free portion' of the redundancy payment? If an employer pays the employes taxes it becomes a Benefit In Kind, which is taxable. So a 100k tax free portion of a fake redundancy would cost 50k in taxes, the taxes on the 50k payment is another 25k...



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