Kilkenny GAA Thread

well KK I was just thinking of the old intercounty setup which involved intermediate and junior players which was a great competition. I don’t know if you would remember that? eg we played Tipp in an all Ireland final in Portlaoise in 1990 a packed house and a great win by the chosen people. John Marnell Micky Walsh from the Boro John Mahon from Mooncoin, Paudie Holden from Mullinavat I’d have to look up the rest to be sure. The glory days every all Ireland won that year bar the senior colleges, tech schools,camogie, handball, minor,U21, junior. Bet Tipp in the U21 in Portlaoise as well. Jaysus I have to stop I’m getting too excited.

well KK again,another afterthought Derek Lyng came up from the KK junior ranks.

fair enough KK but everything should be considered at this stage.

Ah! That record is unbelievable and awesome. Inevitably, after decades of success like that complacency sets in, amongst players, mentors, officials and supporters. That level of dominance was unsustainable. We in Clare had a very good team in the 90s, could have won more than one all irelands but didn't power on like we could have done. We didn't alter the status quo much. Limerick have!. Limerick learnt from munster rugby and adopted a more professional approach than any previously seen in hurling history. They got their structures right, got ample funding in place and not all from one source, got a good management and coaching staff and turned an excellent team into one for the ages. 5 all Irelands in 7 years was a kilkenny type achievement. Next up is Cork who will dominate hurling for the next decade imo. Whither Kilkenny? Ye have too many hurlers and too much tradition to be down for long. How will Kilkenny adapt to the new hurling world, how strong will the rebound be, how successfull will they be etc.? All fascinating questions, not just for Kilkenny supporters but for all hurling fans.

Surely the sight of Cork and or Tipperary dominating should kick the Kilkenny county board into action. Nothing like seeing your nearest rivals to raise your own standards. I think in Kilkenny we were not too bothered with Limerick winning all their All Irelands (as they were so far behind in the roll of honour), although I for one did not want them win the 5 in a row.

Very sad news…God be good to him R.I.P

Jim Treacy, a silver star a childhood hero. I sat beside him in pairs ui chaoimh about three years ago May he RIP an absolute legend.

we must be of the same vintage another excellent team that could have won four in a row at least and lost a superstar through injury Tom Walsh.

a break from the Cody era!!!! And replace those players who were part of that most successful eras of all times with what? Ridiculous

absolutely talked about as the first superstar.

A new era we have to move on . Saying we haven’t got the players is counter productive and gives the management and CB all the excuses they need so I would wish everyone would refrain from that. I for one think we have the players.

The most disappointing thing about Derek Lyngs tenure is the lack of bringing in new/younger players.From Dublin match we had Bolger,Doyle,Moore&Shine as only ones who hadn't played under Cody and I think I'm right in saying they were all substituted which on the day may or may not of been right call.I would like to think that in the County of Kilkenny we do have players but time and effort to bring them in develop them give them as much game time as possible let them make mistakes and instead of hooking them teach them.On style of play over the years posters on here have called for us to do this don't do that etc the problem with playing catch up is by the time you have caught up things have moved on.Surely you first get a group of players together and you then develop a style that suits that group then you fight like dogs and cats from forwards back like our great teams of past and forget about this tippy tappy stuff it's not for us and never will be. Unfortunately grammar is not my strong point but hope all understand what I'm trying to say

I think for the problem we have with our forwards is that none of them have any great pace and between this and the slow ball coming from our backs it makes them easy to play against. To compensate the lack of pace the forwards movement needs to be very good also but unfortunately, bar Eoin Cody at times, the movement in our forward line is nearly non existant. Maybe this is as a result of the ball coming in and they don't trust the defenders to pick out theres runs (or maybe it's why the defenders are hitting that type of ball in) but its a big problem for us. We severely lack an Eamon O'Shea type of forwards coach who could work on our movement and get the best out of our forwards.

yes covcat Huw Lawlor was putting off travelling for about four years so the intention was there, it wasn’t a bolt out of the blue and why wasn’t there preparations made? And at this stage Huw felt the future wasn’t great to stay on.

I often read that we struggle when we play teams who use sweeper/spare man which by the way we do. The fact is you can only have a spare man if A)opposition withdraw a forward or B)we withdraw a forward either way both teams have spare man.So what you do is go man on man and stop letting these SPARE MEN Lording over us simple really