Dublin GAA Discussion Thread: Mod Note - No 'Dublin Dominance' chat allowed!

I would say Brennan’s ban definitely had a negative impact on Dublin’s performances as well. A team which already lacks enough leadership on the pitch.
No one would have thought Rock would have ended up on the sideline instead at the start of this year. Maybe he will be full manager in future. But he doesn’t seem like a fella who is ready for it now. I feel sorry for Rock, given the circumstances.

And they throw out the sop that they want to reduce the number of people on the sidelines. But McGuiness is the manager so the problem wasn't with an extra physio or a stats guy running on the pitch.

I'm all for banning all non-players from the pitch (save for physio at injuries etc), but then apply it. McGuiness has simply no need to step on the pitch. Pushing the player is almost incidental.

It is the culture in the GAA that Managers see themselves as the 16th player. It is high time a small box, like in soccer, is introduced so that all non-playing members must remain at all times. Any breach is a yellow card and a 13m free.

Like JRant, I thought the Brennan suspension was excessive but if laying down a new marker for all teams it would be good for everyone in the long-term. This makes a complete farce of the idea.

Are managers allowed on the pitch and to interfere with players? No, yet that is being brushed off. Now, either the ref didn't understand the rule, or he deemed it not important.

As for saying there is no way to get to the dressing rooms. Wow, so we can't ask mentors to walk around the pitch, or at least to wait until all players and officials have left the pitch?

I do understand the rules, as did the GAA apparently with Brennan, but now they aren't so sure. An incursion onto the field of play is supposed to carry a yellow card, yet none was issued.

Do you know what rule Brennan was sanctioned for, and why that rule is not being applied here?

The GAA have shown with this cowardice that while restrictions may technically be in place, it all depends on the mood of the ref, or the location of the dressing rooms and whether the ref thinks a manager pushing a player is deemed to even warrant a vote in the report.

Panel vs Louth announced.

It’s probably the one of the worst things GAA are at besides marketing the games. The bit that riles me up is there are still an undercurrent of lads who admire this sort of thing. Darragh O’Se calling for Kerry to be “manly”. They deliberately stir it up.
And there also seems to be an undercurrent of “ah lads they are volunteers amateurs”

But the real irony about the Brennan ban is I view the Dublin team as “softies”. Not a Philly McMahon, Kieth Barr, Brian Mullins type among them. All “nice lads” on the pitch! The complete other extreme to today’s Kerry/Donegal or Harte’s Tyrone.

I know full well that other countries are laughing at the Dubs now. A team that is nice, But the manager gets banned!

I see what you are getting at.

It all comes down to how the GAA implements Rule 7.3 (Disciplinary Jurisdiction). The rule book essentially ties the hands of the CCCC if a referee brandishes any card during a multi-person row.
The system creates a massive loophole depending on whether an incident is treated as isolated or part of a wider melee:

• Ger Brennan: His altercation with the Galway coach was spotted directly by the match officials at half-time. He was shown a straight red card on the pitch. Because it was explicitly recorded as an individual infraction by the referee, the standard 12-week suspension went ahead seamlessly.

Jim McGuinness: The Kerry v Donegal row was a massive multi-person half-time brawl. Referee Seán Hurson handled the flashpoint by issuing a single red card to Kerry’s Micheál Burns. Under Rule 7.3 (aa)(2), because a card was issued to resolve the melee, the incident was officially "adjudicated upon". The moment Hurson confirmed to the CCCC that he saw and processed the row, McGuinness was legally shielded from a retrospective video ban for pushing Diarmuid O'Connor, because the referee technically "handled" the overall flare-up on the day.


The system actively rewards things being absorbed into a single card. If a manager has an isolated row, he gets a red card and a 12-week ban. But if a manager gets involved in a massive brawl, as long as the referee picks out just one player for a card (like Burns) and tells the CCCC he dealt with the situation, everyone else who ran onto the pitch or threw a push gets off scot-free because the GAA rules forbid "re-refereeing" a melee that a referee has already carded.

Rule 7.3 (Disciplinary Jurisdiction). The rule book essentially ties the hands of the CCCC if a referee brandishes any card during a multi-person row.
The system creates a massive loophole depending on whether an incident is treated as isolated or part of a wider melee:

• Ger Brennan: His altercation with the Galway coach was spotted directly by the match officials at half-time. He was shown a straight red card on the pitch. Because it was explicitly recorded as an individual infraction by the referee, the standard 12-week suspension went ahead seamlessly.

• Jim McGuinness: The Kerry v Donegal row was a massive multi-person half-time brawl. Referee Seán Hurson handled the flashpoint by issuing a single red card to Kerry’s Micheál Burns. Under Rule 7.3 (aa)(2), because a card was issued to resolve the melee, the incident was officially "adjudicated upon". The moment Hurson confirmed to the CCCC that he saw and processed the row, McGuinness was legally shielded from a retrospective video ban for pushing Diarmuid O'Connor, because the referee technically "handled" the overall flare-up on the day.
  
  The system actively rewards things being absorbed into a single card. If a manager has an isolated row, he gets a red card and a 12-week ban. But if a manager gets involved in a massive brawl, as long as the referee picks out just one player for a card (like Burns) and tells the CCCC he dealt with the situation, everyone else who ran onto the pitch or threw a push gets off scot-free because the GAA rules forbid "re-refereeing" a melee that a referee has already carded.

“Free the Salthill One, repeal Rule 7.3 (aa)(2)” could be a catchy chant on the Hill!? 🤣 🤔

And I definitely get the online vibe that if Ulster sides are done for “indiscipline”. Suddenly it’s because it is anti Ulster v “The South”.

Kerry ? They have it sussed. As usual.

The Dubs have no “Ah yerrah, lookit” solid equivalent in vocabulary.
Major drawback, it doesn’t work in a Dublin accent. Would not be able to keep straight face ! Dubs are too honest!

Why not just ignore ? instead of posting childish nonsense !

Can't see winning if that team starts. Major issues with goalkeeping and midfield. Con not fit. Louth won't be as bad as last day and are great odds at 2/1 to win.

Croker barely at 15% full, a day like today everyone should just be offered access to Premium level, to say thank you for coming and have at least section, level jammed.

Less staffing costs, everyone gets glass pints - everyone a winner. If people want to go on Hill they can