"Green" policies are destroying this country

And I have shown you why Hungary`s electricity consumers have massive discounts on electricity which you still refuse to acknowledge, as well as answer anything you have been asked. It`s because Hungary uses it`s state asset nuclear to keep down the cost by using the profit from the marginal pricing policy. Unlike renewable companies that pocket that excess profit and make out like bandits.

Your " Above the 2500 it doubles" does not hold water either. Their peak demands, like ours, are in Winter. The Eurostat data you have been shown here by me and other posters shows that for the second half of 2025 their electricity is €0.1082/kWh one quarter of our €0.4042/kWh.

In Winter their solar is as useless as ours for adding anything significant to the grid. We have the rare sub-zero nights in Winter. They have frost and ice lasting weeks resulting in them importing ~40% of their electricity during Winter. Mainly from Slovakia which generates 65% of it`s electricity from nuclear, and Ukraine which now supplies practically all of Ukraine`s electricity from nuclear.

Low capacity Winter solar panels being covered in ice and snow are not going to change that no matter how many they add. It`s why they are increasing their generation via nuclear to 70%.

Now how about you for a change addressing some of the questions I asked you ?

I cannot help you if you cannot read. It shouldn't be that hard to understand that comparing electricity prices that are subsidised at source to ones that aren't subsidised, or where the government issues credits after the rate is calculated, isn't a like for like comparison. Surely even you can wrap your head around that.

I am not disputing that electricity generated by a reactor built by the Soviets 40 odd years ago will be very cheap. It's just not a short term solution in a country like Ireland where building a hospital costs billions and takes 10 years+.

It's odd that you are disputing a fact that you can easily search. The exact figure is 2523. It was unlimited until 2022 when gas prices went through the roof forcing the government to put a cap on it.

No point continuing this when you cannot grasp even the most basic of concepts.

It's as if you are a low quality AI bot stuck in a loop. We cannot use what we don't have, and likely will never have.

It appears that you are a believer that when you are in a hole the way to get out of it is to dig deeper.

Had you bothered to do even a small bit of research you would have found that Hungary completely decoupled household electricity from the wholesale market in January 2013. For your 2022 when the wholesale market price was €272 per MWh, household were paying €0.108 per kWh. How Hungary still had that low charge is down to what you have repeatedly been shown and still refuse to acknowledge.

When wholesale electricity prices are high there is a lot of excess profit to be made due to the marginal pricing policy. With the Hungarian state owning their nuclear plants, unlike their solar counterparts who just pocket the excess profit, Hungary used it to keep prices low for the consumer. It`s why Hungary and others who have own their nuclear plants have affordable electricity, and why others such as Poland and Belgium are now moving to do the same.

For someone who has so much belief in solar somehow lowering prices, in 2024 Hungary had a long hot sunny Summer. Ideal for solar to show how it would lower prices. In the real world their wholesale market price peaked at €940 per MWh. Solar did sfa to lower prices. It just pocketed the excess profit due to the marginal pricing policy while Hungary used that profit from nuclear to protect the consumer. While wholesale prices were €940 per MWh Hungarian consumer were paying between €0.09 - €0.10 per kWh.

Not that you will ever answer a question you are ask with anything other than waffle, but if the reason that countries that have reasonably priced electricity is due to 40 year old reactors, how come Finland, - whose latest nuclear plant went operational in 2023, - now have the third cheapest electricity in the E.U. In August 2022 the price was €261.49 per MWh. For 2025 €35.20 per MWh.

You are making my point for me. Hungary has decoupled the price, partly as a tool to buy votes - low prices are popular, so you cannot compare the unit cost in Ireland and Hungary for a like to like comparison.

And before I am accused of saying something that I haven't - Hungary does have cheaper electricity than us - a lot cheaper, but the 10c figure isn't a true reflection.

I have already explained why Finland has cheap electricity. It's not all down to 1 nuclear power plant.

If you wish to keep making a fool of yourself do not let me stop you.

Hungary has cheap electricity because it owns it`s own nuclear plants that are supplying 50% of it`s electricity and is increasing that percentage to 70%. Unlike your "cheap" solar that when it had it`s time to shine did sfa to lower prices and just trousered the extra profit. If you want to keep on that their low price is not a true reflection, take it up with Eurostat.

Finland is the third cheapest in the E.U. for electricity because it generates 40% from nuclear. Do you seriously believe that anyone of sound mind would not look at OLK 3 adding 14% of that total (equivalent to 36.6% of our present requirements) for €11 Billion and the instantaneous massive drop in price to the consumer as well as the equally massive drop in imports and believe it was just sheer coincidence ?

You are talking nonsense on both Hungary, Finland and solar completely ignoring the verifiable data you have been shown in favor of the first thing that comes into your head

I-SEM may have originally been to liberalise electricity from monopolies and create a competitive open market to ensure affordable electricity, but it was quickly transformed by elements within the E.U. into a policy based on zero emissions with little or no consideration for the subsequent affordability of electricity.

With their zero emissions timelines, penalties for non compliance and guaranteed 20 year inflation linked strike prices they have created what I-SEM was supposed to eliminate. A monopoly by a handful of renewable companies that backed by those E.U. policy are now dictating to state governments what the terms will be on strike prices and on payment for electricity generated by them regardless of it being wanted or needed. If they do not get the risk free guaranteed profit they seek, then they just sit back and refuse to bid on offering knowing that due to those E.U. policies governments will panic and re -run those offering on the terms they want.

They have already shown this in their no bids for U.K., Danish and German offshore offerings where all three governments rolled over on their backs with re-run offerings to suit those offshore renewable companies.

If there truly was a climate crisis, these data centres would not be built - what a scam to try to make ordinary people responsible while faceless corporates and their shareholders rape the planet’s resources.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/may/13/utah-approves-datacenter-backlash

You have no idea how backwards US utilities are in the US. The rules and regulations differ not only from state to state but from utility to utility. I only had a call yesterday with a NY based consultant who laid out some of the mind bending regulations utilities have in NY and NJ.

Along with that the landscape is a bureaucratic nightmare. A number of utilities will not use email and insist on the use of FAX and hard copies to communicate designs.

When it comes to making payments a cheque is all they'll accept. I once received two barely legible hand written invoices for $80k each. It was like something you got from a local hardware store back in the 90's after buying a bag of nuts except it was for $160k!

Is it any wonder infrastructure is crumbling over there.

you are some fool…..

Of course they will, but they can only deliver what the wind is providing at the time. Nuclear can load follow by ramping up as required.