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Football Championship 2026 (Mod Note in OP)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,965 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    Yarra, sure how could you have Kerry in the last chance salon and Clifford with a two match ban.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,341 ✭✭✭overshoot


    Going to say again conflating McGuinness actions with Brennan is absolutely laughable. Massive difference in actions.

    If the ccc gave 12 weeks for a small push on a player who pinned a man for a punch, what is it for the actual punch and cliffords elbow?

    Bit of a difference in grades of violent conduct there but of course nothing to be seen for the kerry lads in the demands for action and McGuinness is the devil incarnate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,965 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    The half time incident was due to Clifford`s high elbow into the face and it wasn`t the first time on the day he did it either.

    That`s what lead to McGuinness being incensed over McHugh being subsequently burst open by Burns.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,390 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    I just looked up “the battle of omagh” 2006 . Tyrone v Dublin in league. All but one of the original bans was overturned. So basically in 20 years nothing was really learnt. The GAA CCCC just seem even more reluctant to hand out bans in the first place.

    Unless of course your name is one of :

    Diarmuid Connolly 2017: Carlow - gave linesman a small push he landed on his arse - 12 week ban

    Kevin McStay 2018: - as Roscommon manager threw ball at ref - hit him on head - 12 week ban

    Ger Brennan 2026: - removed Galway staff member’s ear piece - 12 week ban

    Post edited by gormdubhgorm on

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,176 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    The Clifford half time incident was nothing. The one earlier in the half could have had him in hot water alright.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,390 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    So basically it’s like the classroom if you are not on report, you get away with it.

    Yet everyone can see video and see what the ref missed, and pretend it never happened.

    Failure of the GAA to take responsibility other sports would use video evidence.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,526 ✭✭✭Dogsdodogsstuff


    I hope there’s serious pushback on this. Hiding behind the referee report to protect the two big names. Absolute shocking stuff , no defending that mental gymnastics decision.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,965 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    The first two were in relation to match officials and it is quite stretch to compare the Brennan incident to McGuinness on Saturday.

    Personally I believe the powers that be would have been delighted to hand McGuinness a 12 week ban if the could have done so without having to give Clifford a minimum of a two match ban.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,213 ✭✭✭mobby


    CeC are nothing but a bunch of cowards. Ger Brennans 12 weeks was bad enough but they now rub his face in it. Absolutely no creditabilty. Joke of an organisation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,965 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    From what I could see, and from video of it since, it was no different that the previous. Intentionally high.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,526 ✭✭✭Dogsdodogsstuff


    By letter of law it was red and same suspension as Brennan. But since ref admitted he saw it and dealt with it wrongly , apparently nothing can be done. It’s the muppet show



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 893 ✭✭✭Treble double


    Hopefully both these two teams are knocked out before the business end of the championship. Both are up their own arses and hopefully they get dumped out, there are 4 r 5 teams out there on their day capable of beating them on a one off and i will cheer them to the rafters if it happens. What went on below in Killarney was sickening to watch, players diving looking to get opponents carded, players and backroom swarming the reff looking to get players carded, a player being constantly booed when he touched the ball. A manager who has totally lost the run of himself attempting to bully reporters from asking obvious questions. I never thought inter county gaelic football would go down this route and it is horrible to see it happen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 366 ✭✭The Subliminal Verses


    Not a hope they'll be out before the business end of the championship,

    They are the business end of the championship !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,430 ✭✭✭Westernview


    McGuinness gets off because they couldn't bring themselves to sanction Clifford. Imagine the upset sponsors, reduced attendances and the golden boy sitting out championship games. The disciplinary system has been completely undermined.

    Brennan, McGuinness and Cliffird should all have received similar punishment - 1 or 2 match bans.

    Donegal back in poll position unless Kerry can get most of the walking wounded fully fit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 893 ✭✭✭Treble double




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭DubCount


    There was no difference in their actions. Both broke the same rule and should face the same consequence.

    The CCCC just bottled it because of the time of the year, and the team involved. If this happened in the first round of the league or if this was Louth, Jim would be getting a ban, but a few weeks out from the All Ireland with a team thats in the mix, well a ban is not happening.

    They even noted the "Referee dealt with it at the time", but there was no card given to Mr. McGuinness so it wasnt dealt with.

    If rules are not applied fairly, its a farce.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 370 ✭✭john9876


    Was it 'intentionally high' or is Clifford just an unfortunate victim because he's taller than most of the other players?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,341 ✭✭✭overshoot


    As i said laughable...

    Can you describe both events? I think youll struggle to say they're the same. I posted a link to the video of brennans earlier in the thread for your ease



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭DubCount


    Physical interference with an opposing player or team official by a team manager, coach, or backroom member constitutes a Category IV Misconduct at Games infraction. Minor physical interference (such as pushing, shoving, or laying a hand on an individual) carries a minimum 12-week suspension.

    This describes both events.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,390 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    It is still "physical interference" regardless of which rule it fell under.

    I'm not too sure about that they would have been delighted, they could have taken the "unprecedented" action and used video evidence. If players mentors etc knew video evidence was used against them even if missed in the refs report suddenly, everyone would be on much better behaviour. The GAA administrators are making themselves look very amateurish. It is almost implicitly condoning behaviour. If people can get away with it they will keep at it.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,475 ✭✭✭✭event




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,341 ✭✭✭overshoot


    I dont think brennans constitutes minor if you want to go down that road. Pulls his ear, bundles him to the ground and looks like he's tried a stamp.

    McGuinness, push but contact not clear on camera (so how do they pin him?) On player who pins a man for a punch takes 2 steps back.

    So if that's minimum.... brennan should be counting himself very lucky indeed. Slight difference there.

    Personally im quite happy to have a manager who stands up for his players. I think it says plenty that its more who than the action in this tread. McGuinness light push and the vitriol, Burns punch, Clifford elbow, no one concerned about bans there. I know which id consider violent conduct

    Ps the bit your quoting refers to match officials, referees, linesman etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,965 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    No real height disparity in either of the two incidents.

    He`s an inch taller than the donegal full back and two inches taller than Caolan McGonagle. Both incidents on video of him high were when all three had their feet on the ground, so difficult to see how they could not be judged high and intentional



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,618 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    In the case of Brennan he was red carded on the day and got a 12 week.ban. In the case of McGuniness the referee spoke to both managers, he may have spoken to Jim about the push, so it was dealt with.on the day by the referee.its was not as serious as the Brennan incident.

    On Clifford the incident at the start was at worst a yellow card offence. It was not a fore arm smash as many make out. The incident where he caught him in the first half was again at wirst yellow card offence. So technically two yellow cards, a sending off offence but no ban. The hooter shoulder was not a card offence, what Looney did was and he got carded for it.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,965 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    There was no need for them to take video evidence for either of the incidents involving Clifford. The T.V. coverage covered both, yet they still did nothing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,526 ✭✭✭Dogsdodogsstuff


    You aren’t addressing the rules you are giving your bias personal opinion. He didn’t get away with it because Ger Brennans incident was worse so stop trying to imply they are different, they aren’t according to the rules.

    He clearly did lay his hands on Kerry player. Thats a red and 12 week suspension regardless of anything else going on around him.

    McGuinnesss can be charitably said to of gotten off on a technicality, more cynically for other reasons that suited the G.A.A.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,772 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    The reason that they are rare is because of the 12 week ban, which is generally working well in curbing this sort of behaviour. The common feature was interference with an official.

    The players can half kill each other on the field and have their 20 man brawls. Secure in the knowledge that the worst that can happen is an occasional red card and short suspension. Because referees would be slaughtered if they sent off half a dozen, accused of ruining the game just for some "handbags". It is only right that any sort of interference with officials is put in a more serious category.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,341 ✭✭✭overshoot


    Cat 3-min game ban-"Striking or attempting to strike with arm, elbow, hand or knee with minimal force'

    Cat 4-"as above causing injury", min 2 game ban.

    Safe to say a few more suspensions should be flowing if people want to follow the rules... funny only one man people are concerned about



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,618 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    In that case the 4-5 Donegal players that surrounded DC after the hooter in the first half should be getting one mach bans for minimum striking actions as well.

    Post edited by Bass Reeves on

    Slava Ukrainii



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,618 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    One thing that annoys me is the way Donegal continually get away with not coming out after HT. Once again last Sunday the ref had to send a linesman in to call them out. Similarly at HT in the AI and League finals.

    HT tends to be an 18-20 minute affair. Ot never seems to be dealth withnin match reports

    Slava Ukrainii



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