Nuclear - future for Ireland?

they are adding more of Everything , just more RES than Coal.

A lot less energy goes into production of wind and solar than comes out of it.
Your comments are beyond hilarious, at this stage you are just trolling

Yes they are adding more of everything and still most of their energy comes from coal

You can try to spin whatever way you want but the facts remain

I did 8-12 years from the first concrete pour

which is much less than 40 years you pulled out some hole and much less than 24 years left to the 2050 targets (with its 37GW offshore wind!) Ireland has set

it'd easily be 28 years before you get to pouring concrete…

A government does not put its hand in its pocket to pay for anything. It puts its hand in the pocket of its citizens via direct taxation to pay.

Where a government enters into an agreement with private enterprise - like a strike price agreement - then that is an indirect state tax as nobody other than the consumer is going to end up paying for. It doesn`t leave the total cost any cheaper for the consumer. Especially as governments often can access credit on better terms than a private enterprise. The Poland/U.S. funding of Poland`s NPPs being an example.

Every state within the E.U. had their hands tied on power generation going back to 40 years ago with the introduction of the E.U. "First Energy Package Directive" in 1996 that legally mandated all E.U. states to begin dismantling state monopolies. At that time we, and ironically Denmark, had the cheapest electricity in Europe.

This lead to the Integrated Single Electricity Market to "liberalize" consumers from the control of monopolies, and by way of private business competition, provide affordable electricity. There is no denying now that this "liberalization" was hijacked by a green agenda within the E.U. with the marginal pricing policy, emissions targets and fines for non compliance. Affordable electricity was thrown out the window in favor of an agenda and has now lead to a handful of renewables private companies being what that "liberalization" was meant to end,who are now the monopoly holding governments to ransom. They are now dictating the strike price that their generation will be paid for, even when not needed and will not pay a red cent to upgrade grids when the grid problems are those caused by their generation.

Well if we actually had population who actually cared about climate change instead of paying most expensive electricity prices for one of the dirtiest in Europe still

Instead of virtue signaling and greenwashing performative circus it could be done faster

Start with yourself and your friends here who are spending so much time and effort arguing against co2 free energy in support of what leads to perpetual gas burning here and coal burning in China

The government already has started making noises about lifting the environmentalists imposed ban as they coming to realisation that handing away 28 billion for nothing would be the end of any government

I never said we can’t get expertise for nuclear. You however said we have now experience with offshore wind. Indeed several of my colleagues have worked on nuclear.

Yes they are in Scotland. So is the ESB team developing them. It’s how experience is built up.

If we decided to build niceale tomorrow how many years before we could pour an ounce of concrete?

25 years, that’s how long it took France to build 57 reactors from 1974

that year their GDP was 284bn $ (1.1 trillion adjusted for inflation since) ours is currently sitting at 779bn $

at the time of this post we are second dirtiest in Europe behind Poland producing 21x more CO than France per kWh

While remaining the most expensive

Guess what our 9GWh of wind and solar doing?

Yes it’s 2026 and that’s why we have the most expensive and one of the dirtiest grids and about to spend a further 200bn+ and still be even more expensive and reliant on gas and not green

Either climate change is important or it’s not because all the current approach does is line the pockets of US gas turbine manufacturers and US, Gulf and Norwegian gas exporters while furthering Chinas greenwashing agendas

You are worried about nuclear maybe taking to long (lol) while ignoring that the current approach has already clearly failed and doubling down on stupid is… stupid and costly and misses all them fluffy targets

we haven’t delivered a metro over 100 years. We are now just upgrading out Victorian water system.
The last big project was Dublin port tunnel.

it would be at least 30’yeats to get to the pouring stage.

Out electricity is dearer because we are an island with no AC interconnecters. We don’t have tall mountain ranges. We don’t have oil or gas. All our fuel is imported.

We’ve half the population of London living in an island 46 times larger. So that’s adds to Transmission and distribution costs.

why get out of bed in morning /s

Is that the best you can come up with in an infrastructure forum? Why bother building infrastructure?!

Here are two reasons:

• have cheaper electricity
• have greener electricity

do you disagree with either? Why?

The 40 year thing is something you invented as it’s hard to argue against nuclear with any sane rational argument so you have to resort to making up things

Repeating a lie often enough doesn’t make it true