No quitten we're whelan onto chitchat 12.

I said they should face man slaughter charges. You are right saying murder is OTT.

Both incidents are technically man slaughter.

My “narrative” is simple.

I support immigration but would impost some limits. I support multiculturalism, it’s our future. That doesn’t mean giving up our culture, it means making space for other cultures and embracing them.

I’d deport any asylum seekers committing crime, but they are here legally until their cases are decided

There’s no place in a modern society for racists or those that spread hate.

That’s it. Simple as.

10 years ago I would have been in 5 groups that would have shared the video.

Glad I am in none now that had it.

It says they were inconclusive, waiting on toxicology reports

It’s all a bit smoke and mirrors lads & lassies. The tragic killing of Alex Coughlan was reported by every major media outlet in the country. It was and is big news. In fact, traditional media seemed far more focused on urging people not to share the videos filmed by the scumbags involved than social media was in relation to the footage of Salika’s death which was shared widely.

Just to show how perspective can get warped online, I was on Henry Street yesterday changing a hoodie in Arnotts. There was a group of African protesters outside. Big crowd, men and women clapping, chanting and making short speeches. I walked past them, one of the lads said hello, I nodded back, smiles all round. Two Gardaí stood nearby observing from a distance. Completely calm atmosphere. This is Ireland, people have a right to protest peacefully.

Then I got home and saw some fella online claiming he was intimidated and blocked from entering Arnotts at around the exact same time I walked straight in without any issue (within minutes as I whatsapped my wife as I walked in).

Funny how different reality can look once it passes through social media.

Agreed, I just thought there should be a bit of insight from the city centre, and you're right, there are no heroes when it comes to that incident.

Just a bit more perspective on Dublin. It’s not how some people are painting it. There aren’t gangs of immigrants hassling people around the city centre. I’m shocked and saddened by the death of Mr. Coughlan, and I hope the full extent of the law is brought down on his attackers to send a clear message to anyone else.

It reminds me of the killing of Lukasz Rzeszutko in Coolock. I used to work for Kish Fish... Similar circumstances, a hard working man killed by scumbags.

Don’t know his status in the country but if he wasn’t a citizen he sounds like he should have been deported by what you are saying, this isn’t the sort of immigration profile we need. Yes we need immigration but not criminal.

Yet still, causing his death wasn’t justified if that’s what happened, and it certainly seems they contributed at least.

@whelan2 Is that where the original judge was supposed to too heavy handed with hus jury instruction

Yes, the lad that was killed was a year ahead of my eldest lad in our secondary school.

Shocking thing to happen