Kilkenny GAA Thread

I'd say even Neverbet is in Paddy Powers after that

Well Village, don’t mention the war. But I still believe this could be the best thing ever if everyone comes along for the spin.

The Kk team we have seen this year would not win an AI.

So as some have mentioned here it might be for the best today if it brings massive change.

Its clear there is something missing between Lyng and the players. They look clueless and at the end of the day this comes down to the manager. No disrespect but draws to Carlow and Offaly says something is wrong. If you want to play a certain style you have to have the players to play that style. Trying to fit players into the style wont work. Square plugs round holes.

Dowling Is a good shout. He has worked his way up the ladder. I think a lot of people will be saying Shfflin but the way the U20 are going it will rule him out.

Brian Dowling would be a good shout, knows the underage scene for obvious reasons and would command respect of players. I'm not sure about marque appointments of former players, Derek hasn't worked out even if he came in with u20 all Ireland win. We had the luxury for a long time under Cody without having to make managerial change decisions. It's something every other team has had to do every 2-3years, we're inexperienced with it in last 30 years

I think Dowling is man for the job when Lyng eventually goes. I hope it's just my mood at the moment but I can see Davy Fitz coming our way

There would be mutiny if they hired Fitz.

They did yeah, they couldn't understand why it was a 65. Cusack, to be fair to him, pointed out how good a save it was at full time

You didn't miss much, I wouldn't have either except as soon as I turn off the hurling I'm going to have to do work around the house

It was obvious that hitting the ball in long to the forwards wasn't working but yet Kilkenny persisted with it despite Dublin catching every ball that was sent in. Crazy that this tactic wasn't changed - there was literally no plan B.

All credit to a Dublin as well, they played a very smart game and played to their strengths.

Changing management won't solve it but we do need to change it. I've the height of respect for Derek Lyng, a dyed in the wool Kilkenny man and all time great, and I feel for him today, but we need things freshened up. He will be hurting more than any Kilkenny supporter on here, or any keyboard warrior, and we'd do well to remember that. He has given his all to the County as a player and a manager and gave us some great days. He brought us very close, won 3 Leinsters in a row and reached an All Ireland and League Final, but unfortunately couldn't get the big one.

In isolation, today is on the players. In a game we had to win, Dublin showed more desire and hunger. They were still in the championship had they lost. That says it all. They were hungrier in the tackle, pressurised us far more in the middle third than we did them, and won what seemed like 90% of the breaks. Inexcusable for our players to be outfought in the circumstances we found ourselves in.

The bigger picture is that we 100% need the current county board set up and old boys club, completely uprooted. And fast. We're already facing down the barrel of a Cork like famine, and if we don't fix things soon, it'll be even worse. If today's result helps that, then we might look back on it as a positive.

Kk new how dublin were going to set up. Kk played right in to their hands. It was beyond braindead. Dublin have a style,identity,system. This is dereks 4th year and the players cant pass a ball. Harry shine wouldnt catch that ball if he had a ladder. Bar one or two lads here the lights are flashing for years. The county board are a shambles. The only county in ireland without a center of excellence. Walking out today the most die hards of kk hurling said this had to happen. If this is what it takes for a complete overhaul because its stale out dated. Look what can be done in offally with someone like duignan. We have pj kenny he cant even dress himself. He was put in that position because it was convenient. The trend is there. Kk are declining the last 3 years. What did the county board do? Gave management another two years. Its the same players and the same mistakes year after year. Not good enough. Kk drew with cw and offally and cw beat them in a challenge match a few months ago. The book stops with management. This team has picked itself the last few years. Who ever comes in needs to clear out 4 or 5 lads. Losing with new lads is one thing but losing with the same players over and over again. The lack of fight was alarming but the amount of mistakes was shocking. I dont remember blanch cathing a ball. Kk were always good to watch,flair,hunger,heart. Thats all gone. This was coming. A long summer ahead and a big post mortem but a huge clear out is desperately needed

We will.

Act now, and it’ll be 10 years when we’re in a position to consistently challenge for the AI again.

But we all can sense that whatever the county board do, it won’t be acting now.

Very poor; in every respect.

I don't like singling out players but Killian Doyle was woeful and didn't try a yard, either.

Archaic tactics, as usual. High balls booming in all the first half and nothing coming from them.

Complete clear out of management and back room team required.