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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 140 ✭✭pilatus


    David Clifford is a dirty dirty player as evidenced yesterday, holding his hands up and pleading innocent and shocked..... What, me, I didn't do anything!! Burns too after getting the red, shaking his head in disagreement, he threw a punch, did he expect to be praised or what? A bit of shoving and verbals is fine, but the next time out the Kerry team should be reminded that they are playing football, not rugby or boxing. If they fancy those sports go compete there and see how tough they really are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,390 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Yeah it contrasts to Brennan’s attitude apologised there and there and then. But McGuinness’s attitude is being a bit of a sleeveen.

    Between that and Murphy’s dirt during the league. It is becoming harder to like Donegal as a neutral. Even though I really admire their skill levels and general play.

    In the past I have said Murphy was one of my favourite footballers, and last year hoped/thought Donegal would win Sam from the outset. Now I am thinking “Do I really want that shower to win Sam?”

    For the neutrals I suppose it will now be Galway / Mayo / Cork / Roscommon / Westmeath who people will be supporting.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 600 ✭✭✭cgorzy


    The red card on the day for Brennan may be the reason the ban happened, Hurson saying he dealt with it on the day might be the get out for McGuinness but really rules should be applied evenly. Bans for McGuinness and Clifford is what should happen but neither getting bans would be my guess. A 12 week ban for McGuinness strictly applied would probably take Donegal out of All Ireland contention, strictly applying it would be another job entirely.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 895 ✭✭✭Treble double


    I still feel Donegal lack a kicking game, they are metronomical in what they do and have put savage work into holding onto the football and working it through the hands. I think there are more naturally talented teams out there eg. Galway but will that natural talent be able to beat manic levels of coaching and practice of possession football systems. Thats why McGuinness is so wound he knows every last detail has to go right for them to win Sam, a suspension for him could derail the whole thing.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,599 ✭✭✭quad_red


    if you can’t see the guy diving back I give up.

    Ben Thatcher on Pedro Mendes is a ‘forearm smash’. Clifford is involved in a tussle and raises his arm. If he goes cos he got sucked in, so be it.

    But the gleeful pearl clutching that this proves Clifford is a dangerous thug is funny to watch.

    Like have ye forgotten Murphy’s punch combo during the league final? I suppose the difference is Casey didn’t go down clutching his face and the Kerry bench didn’t empty and run onto the field and the maor uisce wasn’t body checking people and O’Connor wasn’t pushing Murphy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,390 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Donegal have great movement off the ball and two point shooters though. It was two years ago up in Ballybofey in the league where I realised how good they are. They rinsed Dublin all over the pitch. And seem to have more depth than they had then.

    But was very surprised how Donegal folded in the AI final last year. That probably backs up your argument, that everything will have to go right for them.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭almostover


    If you're hit in the face with force the natural reaction tends to be to fall back. Not sure how that constitutes a dive.

    Clifford isn't a dangerous thug, but he also should have seen red yesterday for that hit pre-game. Not to mention a yellow for the late shoulder that kicked the whole melee off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,938 ✭✭✭enricoh


    In the semi final last year Murphy clotheslined meaths Sean Rafferty with a ridiculously late hit, it was like something out of UFC. I was amazed Murphy didn't get a free for it! Rafferty had to go off soon after.

    Anytime the ball came near him in the final he got a tap over free. Didn't matter in the end but still.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,022 ✭✭✭✭irishgeo


    The GAA disciplinary process has always been a shitshow, designed by amateurs and taken apart by professionals, way too mnay rules,loopholes and appeals processes and never applied in the same manner.

    The ref should have brought the 2 captains in and said the next bit of anything and it will be red. The constant baiting of good players off the ball and then if he anyway reacts, the defender throws himself to the ground, rolling around and needing treatment, while his team mates run to the ref to get the player sent off.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,965 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    Nobody hit Clifford at the half- time buzzer and no Donegal player even touched touch him as he walked away afterwards playing the innocent with his hands in the air as Kerry players came piling in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,663 ✭✭✭munster87


    Right so McGuinness 12 week ban for the push…how long will Burns get for an uppercut to the face? 3 games? Would like to see him get enough to put him out for the season no matter how far Kerry get.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,658 ✭✭✭skeleton_boy


    You can clearly see McGonagle makes two moves after the challenge. He moves his upper body backwards in a natural reaction to the tackle but half a second later he takes a tumble and the Donegal swarm begins



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 37,290 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    Clifford is a very lucky boy. He very clearly elbowed to the side fo the head/neck off the ball. He should have got punished, he didn't.

    I thought he looked a bit sheepish as he ran away with his hands in the air at ht.

    I am not really sure how anyone can defend what he did and getting away with it, with a straight face.

    As for Paudie, he was running full of intent towards the tunnell at ht, the Donegal player turned around and he went into pure sheep mode and simply jogged past him. Comical really.

    The Red Kerry got was a pure dirty stroke and he jogging away like a little innocent boy afterwards.

    I think Donegal stood upto Kerry yesterday like men, Kerry most certainly cannot say the same.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,658 ✭✭✭skeleton_boy


    Donegal had 5-6 swarming around Clifford within seconds. True they was no real belt in there but they were leaving a shoulder in and niggly stuff like that. That's fine when it's one on one but when it's 5-6 on 1 it's always going to raise a reaction from the receiving team. If you want to stop these sort of melees breaking out it's the type of swarming that Donegal were guilty of on more than one occasion that needs to be punished.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,390 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    What was the logic of it ? Kerry trying to lay down a marker? Good sides shouldn’t have to do that much dirt. You would sort of understand it if were physical. And were limited skill wise etc.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,479 ✭✭✭FullBack Jam


    My thoughts too. Before the match yesterday, I was hoping Donegal would win - purely cause Kerry have won enough. But as the game progressed, the antics of the Donegal lads got embarrassing. Constantly moaning - looking for Kerry lads to get booked, feigning injury. This swarming around refs and opposition players looks preplanned. I know it sounds like a shallow thing to say, but the Donegal lads just look like such an annoying group of players.

    I was glad to see Burns get the line for his nasty punch, but even after that I found myself hoping Kerry would get back in to the game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭irishguitarlad


    Are you saying that would be a preplanned tactic from St. Jimmy? How dare you, he would never.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭Thesmallfarmer


    I think McGuiness wont be punished ,there was no real threat in what he done even though phisical contact was made with DOC.

    Kerry wont push it anyway incase DC gets looked at well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 649 ✭✭✭vid36


    Rossies v Tyrone is very open 1:1 to 4, shame its not on tv.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,122 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    Praising Brennan's attitude FFS! He apologised and then appealed it all the way to the DRA without a leg to stand on. So he apologised but felt he should get away with it anyway, for no discernible reason whatsoever, and wasted everyone's time in doing so.

    His apology was worth nothing the way he acted the maggot over it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,122 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    The fact McGonagle dived does not change the fact that Clifford hit him with a raised forearm/elbow. They are not mutually exclusive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,022 ✭✭✭✭irishgeo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,390 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Untrue that’s just anti Dublin bias on your part. Any member of the association is entitled to avail of the appeals process. Or is there a specific rule on Dubs not being allowed to avail of the right to appeal, that I am unaware of?

    Brennan on appeal argued that it was “disruptive behaviour” as opposed to “physical contact” . However, the original charge was upheld.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,122 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    Being entitled to something doesn't make it right. Brennan had absolutely no business appealing it, as Cahair Kane pointed out in his article.

    "Anti Dublin bias". Grow up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,022 ✭✭✭✭irishgeo


    Espically when the rule already exists a black card for the 3rd man in.

    If the ref threw a few black cards at those lads swarming around another an opposition player I would black card the lot of them. It would soon stop it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,122 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    Clifford was touched, but he wasn't hit. They were all over but there was barely a jostle. The (late) hits he and Looney put on Mogan (?) were orders of magnitude harder than any physical contact they made with him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,634 ✭✭✭Gael85


    I suppose with all the Kerry pundits this behaviour goes unmentioned . All other county...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭almostover


    Twas always and ever the same, once any team dish it out to Kerry they are playing the poor mouth. All give and no take with that crowd.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 358 ✭✭Pat734


    Just watched it now on GAA Go, could have gone either way but Tyrone scrape it in the end. Jeez, the commentary was brutal with a commentator named Mike Finnerty and some other lad. Fierce boring in an exciting match



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