Deposit return scheme (recycling) - Part 2

For the purposes of this discussion we are talking about collecting vs. not collecting and the effect on the future of Re-turn.

Obviously some of the non returned containers will be put in green bins and recycled others will end up in general waste not recycled and a percentage will remain in the environment as discarded litter.

Money from that 50+ milion euro per year surplus should be spent on a report showing how much extra carbon footprint this DRS is costing the environment and extra expense its costing customers, retailers and the now the Exchequer. Some craic.

My issue is that Re-Turn supporters now saying "collection" is the measure of success is farcical. It should be recycling but since it's now blatantly obvious that was never the case (EU targets are for collection not recycling) I find it a bit rich for you to try to now say Re-Turn is a success based on containers being moved around.

So are you now admitting Re-Turn is a expensive (additional carbon footprint and cost) exercise in moving containers around?

Should we not expect some form of recycling accountability here instead of stats on collection in the media?

As said numerous times this is a scheme that encourages more plastic use not less. Its a running joke at this stage.

Any update on our recycling plant?

I didn't say it was a false statement.

Obviously if the containers are not returned the deposit is not paid back.

Clearly the objective is to make Ireland compliant with the EU directive.

I don't know the consequences of failure but I hope they don't fail.

I took issue with the implication that money in the bank account was an indication of achievement for the company.

Like I said clearly if the money isn't paid out as returned deposits it's in the account.

The reason the company exists is to ensure Ireland teaches ithe targets.

I take onboard your comments in the last paragraph and hope that any such issues, if they arise, will be dealt with.

"Sent for recycling". So is that the new measure for Re-Turn's success instead of "collection"? Case close then so 😆

Let’s remember that for the first year-plus of Re‑Turn, their own website claimed the scheme existed “to achieve EU recycling targets”. A line so wildly inaccurate that someone on their media team eventually realised how absurd it looked and quietly removed it.

Now we’re down to “sent for recycling.”

Give it time and we may end up with just “sent,” because at the moment that’s the only part anyone can actually verify.

Everyone knows there's no update on the recycling plant. It wasnt a serious question.

Government minister for climate, energy and environment Alan Dillon changes his mind. Doesn't want 60 million euro from Re-Turn's deposit fund to be spent on a recycling plant. Should be pumped back into the government's circular economy fund instead 🤣

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41851059.html

Its grand lads sure we only ship 90% of PET plastic out of Ireland at the moment.

Out with the old gombeens in with the new

Seems like another fine mess olrite. Nothing planned properly except get a bare bones DRS in to satisfy collection targets and let producers off the hook for continued plastic usage.

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/government-urged-to-reform-or-disband-shambolic-re-turn-scheme-after-e500000-bin-raiding-bill-1905390.html

The local authority’s waste management section estimated that three hours in every 24-hour cleaning cycle were being diverted to deal with “bin interference” as a result of the DRS.

The installation of bin surrounds specifically for the collection of these containers at a cost of €40,000 had proven to be of limited use, according to internal briefing documents.

A further €115,000 had been spent replacing locks on bins at a cost of €115 per receptacle after they were broken open by people looking for containers that are worth between 15 cent and 25 cent per item.

And the bills keep piling up.

Same going on all round the country no doubt. Shambles.