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Football Championship 2026 (Mod Note in OP)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,390 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    There was so much on TSG . I can’t remember what Quirke said about the David Clifford incidences. Overall he seemed to call a lot of decisions “harsh” by “the letter of the law”.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,238 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    Brennan physically grabbed the Galway fella's earpiece out of his ear, on the blindside. In a nothing fracas. Sly. After a career of dirtiness.

    McGuinness reacted to his player getting split open in a sly punch. Most cowardly since Whelan in the throw in vs Crawford?

    People wanting McGuinness banned are being petty



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,114 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Clare out of the Tailteann Cup

    Would of been expected to do better



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,634 ✭✭✭Gael85


    Brian Howard was punched by member of Galway backroom team who also had no business been involved in that incident.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,634 ✭✭✭Gael85


    The changeover of managers in recent years hasn't helped things. Majority of leaders from Colm Collins era have retired now. Hard to replace quality of them lads.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 344 ✭✭Willie Power


    The teams that feel they're Sam Maguire status seem to struggle with motivation.

    I can understand Down, won it 2 years ago, the way their year has unfolded, but the TC would be a good win for Clare.

    "He might be an eejit, but he's our eejit"
    Willie Power



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,658 ✭✭✭skeleton_boy


    The coverage switched to show the McGuinness incident as Quirke started talking so naturally he was going to speak on the images shown. You both seem to have left out where he agrees that there wasn't much in it but that the GAA have set a precedent with Brennan which he feels was "very, very harsh". It's obviously a huge talking point given that precedent.

    He also stated Burns crossed the line and deserved a red card.

    The Clifford incidents where at most two yellow cards. The first was nothing more than a shove and McGonagle takes a dive. The second was a strange one in that it actually looks less dangerous close up and in slow motion but it was late and deserved a yellow.

    Nothing being said about Donegal swarming a player 5-6 to 1 and gesturing for a card whenever there's a borderline challenge. This is what lead to the half-time incident kicking off in the first place and it was stunning no Donegal player received a card for escalating the situation.

    Anyway, Kerry intended to rattle Donegal today after the league final and Murphy incident but their indiscipline cost them and they ended up getting a hiding themselves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,618 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Hurson had a poor game from the start. He ignored Cliffords marker Cole and the goalie hanging out of him. There was a other incident early on and he was completely blocked on a run.

    The lineman on the hospital side had a complete view of the the elbow incident and the incident before it. So the decision much have been to ignore both strikes. Cole was not struck that hard andvthere was definitely an element of a dive by him.

    McGuniness us unlikly to be banned as surly tgecref saw it but decided to take no action. Ger Brennan did not push the Galway mentor he twisted his ear.

    Stupid of Burns to clatter McHugh, however Donegal players started the melee and walked away un punished similar to Murphy's closed fist strikes on Dylan Casey in the league final

    Graham O Sullivan was taken out by the Donegal player in the second half and it looked like he was taken off concussed.

    No excuses Donegal deserved the win. Hard tp see Kerry wining it this year. Hurson failed to control the game from the start, too much off the ball incidents went unpunished

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,390 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    It’s not petty it’s in rule 5 - ANY physical interference with an opponent by an opposing player or staff member.

    Context as you try to imply that the Dubs were “worse” is an irrelevance. I suggest you read the rule. And come back to discuss it when you have a better understanding of it.

    For further contrast Diarmuid Connolly got a 12 week suspension for pushing a linesman v Carlow 2017.

    https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0615/883046-connolly-decides-against-continuing-appeal/

    Connolly was charged under a different rule 1.2 - in category 5 - Offence

    "Minor physical interference with a Referee, Umpire, Linesman or Sideline Official."

    Post edited by gormdubhgorm on

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,434 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    Genuine question - what do you mean by stuck? Surely Dublin could decide to play in Parnell if ye wanted?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,634 ✭✭✭Gael85


    Kerry were too pumped up for game and lost their discipline in first half. Kerry defenders trying to roughing up Donegal forwards ignored by Hurson and linesman as well.

    3/4 Kerry players made beeline for Murphy in that melee before HT too. Paudie Clifford in the middle of it.

    When Kerry have players back will still be the team to beat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,634 ✭✭✭Gael85


    Clifford should got yellow card at least for first McMonagle incident as caught with elbow. Donegal were incensed by second challenge as thought Clifford escaping again but it was Evan Looney who fouled.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,390 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    It won’t happen because DCB know fans will miss out on games - 8500 capacity. And I think the DCB are also pressured by the Leinster Council and broader GAA as they know Dublin (despite smaller crowds than in the past) still are a cash cow for the association as a whole .

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,434 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    Fair enough - for some reason I thought PP was more like 14k



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,965 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    They didn`t. They were protesting at what he did but none of them touched him. He walked through them with his hands raised in the air as if he had done nothing and a bunch of Kerry players then piled and Burns punched McHugh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,122 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    This is complete and utter bollocks. "Nothing more than a shove" where he manages to have his entire forearm raised above McGonagle's shoulder height. He might get away with it in the sense that it wasn't a strike and because McGonagle took a huge dive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,122 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    Mod Edit

    Warning issued.

    Post edited by ShamoBuc on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,054 ✭✭✭downthemiddle


    People who are comparing the incident yesterday to the Ger Brennan incident are being completely disingenuous. Ger Brennan was clearly shown on camera pushing a Galway mentor to the ground and pulling out his earpiece. He was shown a red card at the time.
    Yesterday both managers were spoken to before the start of the second half but neither were carded. Therefore, whether you agree with it or not, it was dealt with at the time.
    While it is likely that Jim did push a Kerry player I have yet to see any camera angle that shows him with his hands on a Kerry player. People can think what they want, but under the GAA disciplinary system hard evidence is required. Any attempt to ban Jim will make the GAA disciplinary process look as foolish as we all know it is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,940 ✭✭✭Happyilylost


    Don't think that will play out that way.

    A) the level of interference is irrelevant. He could of grazed him with a fingernail or headbutted him. The rule is Rule 5, Category IVa of the GAA rulebook defines an infraction for “misconduct at games by team officials” where “any type of physical interference with an opposing player or team official”. The punishment for that offence is a minimum 12-week ban and a two-match suspension.

    "Any type" of interference. So, by the rule he is in trouble.

    B) video evidence looked clear cut. I've seen no one from a pundit to players, to Jim himself who have denied he didn't touch him at all.

    C) both managers were spoken too. This may work. Hurson and officials may say they didn't see the incident so then it will be reviewed. Depends on the match report. If they say they did see it and Hurson states he dealt with it he can be asked to revisit it, but may stick to he has dealt with it.

    All in all. With what went on before I feel there would be a lot more of an issue from the wider GAA community if he doesn't get banned. (Especially Dublin, Kerry I'm sure would have plenty to say) so two of the big power houses in GAA.

    Now they may ban him and Donegal appeal and its found that Rule 5A, section II, Subject section 5A II i, paragraph 3, line 4 that states a purple pen must be used and he'll get off as it wasn't adhered too. But at a minimum I feel the GAA have no choice but to ban him.

    Post edited by Happyilylost on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,122 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    It is "likely" that McGuinness pushed O'Connor because he quite blatantly did push him. It was shown on tsg last night and discussed at length. Given the timeline and O'Connor's "it wasn't me" reaction, what has likely happened is that McGuinness has misidentified him as the one who split McHugh open.

    He will and should be banned, no matter how minimal the contact. Fitzgerald stadium set up was an embarrassment yesterday but that is no excuse. You can't have team officials shoving players about.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 895 ✭✭✭Treble double


    Fair play to Tommy Rooney for questioning McGuinness about laying hands on a player at halftime. McGuinness has tried to make an example of reporters before in the Alex Ferguson mode so that he will get soft treatment. It took a bit of courage from the reporter to do his job and true to form McGuinness attacked like a cornered rat. I don't know if he deserves a ban or not or if there is actual footage of him putting hands on a player, but he put himself in the position by being where he was and any reporter worth his salt would bring up the incident to him because it was being talked about by everyone. It would be shamefully poor reporting to not bring it up, for fear of being berated by the mighty Jimmy



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,599 ✭✭✭quad_red


    defines this thread to a tee 😄

    The guy Clifford was involved with went down clutching his face screaming whereas the guy who actually got a punch in the face from Burns didn’t.

    Kerry were deservedly beaten, Burns had to go but if ye can’t see the Donegal players and bench emptying to hysterically try and get Clifford sent off didn’t kick that off well there’s no point even talking about it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,179 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    Does anyone actually laud them as godly pure footballers or is that something that just exists in your head?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭almostover


    The only one who tried to get David Clifford sent off was David Clifford.

    Forearm smash to the face before the throw in should have been sanctioned with a red.

    He was being the big man too prior to the fracas, late shoulder hit on the Donegal defender kicked it all off.

    But sure 'king David' escaped sanction totally.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,912 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    I can't get over the chat and so called surprise about Jim dancing a 12 week ban,and ger getting one recently.

    This is not a new rule,it's been around for years and for good reason - it's hard enough keep control of 15 v 15 without mentors and supporters piling in. The only surprise is that it was enforced against Brennan which means ifs gonna be hard to let Jim off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,022 ✭✭✭✭irishgeo


    The Donegal defender hit Clifford in the head first, so he started it all. When Clifford returned the favour he went down trying to get Clifford sent off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,511 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    the dirtiest act i can remember seeing by a kerry player in the last decade was Sean O’shea’s kick to a Evan Comerford face after he saved his penalty.


    by that time everyone outside Dublin wanted to see Dublin bet so it was put down as accidental 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,702 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    Yerra poor Kerry, completely blameless in everything as usual 😂

    Clifford having a run blocked or his jersey pulled deserves intervention but him throwing elbows doesn’t? 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,390 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Yeah true enough, and because Dublin were flying it, and had strength in depth the Dubs just got on with it with a shrug of the shoulders.
    Back in 2017 also Dublin just got on with it no fuss. After the Carlow linesman push incident v Carlow. Connolly wasn’t even missed, Sam won that year.

    Besides the Brennan incident v Galway in the league. The only other example I could find of a manager getting a 12 week suspension under rule 5 for “physical interference” was 2018 when Kevin McStay (Roscommon manager) threw a ball at the referee.

    https://www.donegaldaily.com/gaa/roscommon-boss-mcstay-accepts-12-week-ban-after-linesman-incident-288099

    It was reported in the Donegal Daily 2018 and all. I love the irony!

    If Jim McGuinness doesn’t get the same treatment as Brennan and McStay it will just prove that the GAA disciplinary process is not universally applied consistently.
    It could be argued that it largely depends on an individual’s particular profile within the organisation, or what county they are from.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,599 ✭✭✭quad_red


    ”Forearm smash” - people are even talking in tabloid now.



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