Waterford Airport.

Protest in Kilkenny over US billionaire investment in Waterford Airport https://share.google/9qxGqIsbmXIiVhHtV

Nonsense.

That only relates to the runway extension and carpark. The terminal is excluded from the application.

I don't think I would tbh. Maybe a prelim budget. But the the likelihood of getting that right is pretty small. Given the runway cost are triple the estimate, and a hell of a lot simpler than a terminal.

I'm sure there is something on paper somewhere. There was a masterplan 15 years ago. But it's definitely not at an advantage stage. The planning application happens relatively early on in the design process.

We could see an maintenance company such as Dublin Aerospace announce plans to build a maintenance facility in Waterford? They had floated the idea in the past and were keen to establish a facility in a regional airport other than Shannon. They would have limited expansion potential in Dublin.

They have to design it in detail before they can apply for planning permission. Like I said, I believe it is at an advanced stage of design.

“One drawback might be that the new runway wouldn't be able to handle widebody jets”

Not necessarily an issue as maintanance aircraft manoeuvring empty weight and short positioning fuel, but subject to upgraded taxiway/apron ILS etc. E.g. EirTrade receiving A330, 777 and an A380 at Ireland West which is 2500m.

Talk about pedantic and splitting hairs, I can't believe I'm actually responding to this.

That particular A380 was being dismantled so yes you could say it would not have taken off again considering it would be divided into a million pieces!

With no passengers, baggage and a resonable amount of fuel an A380 would easily depart from Knock's 2300m runway, in fact I'd say it would need far less.

The point remains that Waterford's new runway will be of sufficient dimensions for empty widebody aircraft to visit for maintenance if ever a facility was considered.

British Airways widebody maintenance based is Cardiff Airport which has similiar runway dimensions to Waterfords new runway. Cardiff has also had an A380 land and depart previously.

Either way I don't see one ever being built but then again who knows what the future holds!

I had a good read of this, interesting reading. I hadn't realised that ther had been an objection from Beacon Hill Stables in Slieverue on the grounds they were situated under the airport approach flight path and the planes and their shadows might spook their horses. They're 10km from the runway, as the crow flies, not sure how high the planes would be passing over that far out. Might have been in the inspector's rebuttal but i didnt see it.

Anyone?

Aircraft flying an ILS (Instrument Landing System) approach at Waterford would fly a 3.5 degrees glide slope which equates to just over a 1000ft every 3 nautical miles. So an aircraft 10km out is about 5.4 nautical miles so should be at approx 2000ft. I don't imagine aircraft at that altitude would be an issue but I don't know enough about horses to be sure.

They have to design it in detail before they can apply for planning permission

No they don’t. Planning often changes the design (or kills a project) so there no point is designing it in full before it’s approved to proceed.
Detail design is literally the design stage after planning. Loosely, it goes;

Concept, Planning, Detail Design, Tender.

Good to have a date outlined. You’d expect some imagery to be released at the same time.
I’d imagine it will get tied up for a bit with council, ABP, etc. Terminal will need significant uplift once traffic it going. Makes complete sense to do it right now.

Anyone remember Bergamo before Ryanair startedserving them? It was smaller than WAT. People seem to want Heathrow delivered out at Killowen in one go, before they will be satisfied.

First principle, "let them land"!

Yeah my thoughts too, Kramer dissappears once he runs out of road only to be replaced by Mellor, who I suspect is the same person, hmm…anyone ever see the two of them together?..the plot thickens!

Go back to knock no-one wants you here

i wont be happy until the space shuttle rocks up, so…..

Seems as though everyone is looking for the slightest mistype to pick a fight on this topic...

What mistype?
I pointed out that it that the the design was still pre-planning stage. I've no idea why anyone felt the need to pick a fight over that statement. It's a pretty obvious.