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All Ireland Senior Hurling Championship 2026 (Munster & Leinster Championships, Liam McCarthy Cup)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 459 ✭✭PIORUN


    you just can't have a forth team in Munster getting out. It get rid of so much jeopardy. Win once and you'd more than likely go through.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭Krazy gang


    Why do leinster teams always have to go to a munster venue to play munster teams? Saturdays all ireland minor preliminary games ,cork wexford and clare Dublin in thurles.

    All Ireland quarter final double headers last few years at senior level in thurles or Limerick! Totally unfair. Are munster teams afraid to play in a leinster venue?!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,290 ✭✭✭endainoz




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,833 ✭✭✭MfMan


    The GAA rejected it, led by the counties themselves, at recent congress. Administratively, most counties are in favour of the current structure because it allows them to implement a coherent and planned timetable for their domestic competitions. Personally, I would like to attend championship matches without having to wear a heavy / rainproof jacket, and be able to look forward to the finals in September as in the good old days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,831 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Calls (from Waterford) grow is what they mean there.

    Some fans and prominent people from Waterford have been really embarrassing themselves the last few days.

    If there is to be any change can we just change the provincial championships to East and West. We will take Galway and Leinster can have Waterford. That way they get their matches against Kildare and Carlow they so crave.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,259 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    Having no match after May sounds early.

    But consider that even the All-Ireland finalists don't play after mid-July. The 2 losing semifinalists are finished in early-July.

    With the split season, there has to be a "business end" of the championship at some point.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,389 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Leinster barely covered as well, an afterthought. Meanwhile we literally get roaring on the TV “MUNSTER HURLING, MUNSTER HURLING, MUNSTER HURLING”. It’s the same small group of fecking teams playing in rotation. All patting each other on the back saying how great they are.

    Eventually I tune out mentally to be honest, and wait for the business end of the hurling championship. It’s going to be Munster teams all over again anyway!

    Then having to hear about Semple Stadium “the home of hurling”. Ok granted, the atmosphere can be great but the stadium is antiquated. From a bygone era. Seats are not even comfortable, terrible views in the ground. That’s never said!

    I will be be looking foward to the KK v Dublin game. In Parnell park. Great place to see a hurling match.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,259 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    I think there is an argument to be made where the teams eliminated from the Liam McCarthy (like Waterford, Wexford, Kildare etc.) enter the closing stages of the Joe McDonagh or some sort of Tailteann equivalent.

    It could bring them a couple of extra games and maybe a Croke Park appearance if they made the final.

    For a county like Tipp this year who won Liam in 2025 they might not be motivated by a Joe McDonagh campaign. But it would be a nice opportunity for their u20s or fringe players to play senior intercounty, maybe in Croke Park.

    It's not perfect or anything, but I think it would be good if it existed. It would be beneficial to the likes of Carlow this year to get some tough games this season already ahead of their likely return to Liam McCarthy next year.

    If it was totally dominated by Munster - and I'm not convinced it would be - you could bring in a rule, for example, that only players up to age 23 can be selected by those counties.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,831 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    That would be very unfair on the Joe McDonagh teams. Rugby and soccer do this format and I hate it. You just get a team of losers dropping down to a level they shouldn't be at to win a trophy they don't care about.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,389 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Yeah it would completely devalue it imagine how the other sides would feel if a Tipp underage side beat the senior sides?

    Tipp knew the format before they got into the championship. Just because they won the all-Ireland last year, doesn’t give them a “protected species” label. As it should be.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 921 ✭✭✭LeoD


    I fully agree that the current calendar does not help promote the game. The league made sense when your championship was one and done for 50% of the teams and an All-Ireland could be won by winning 1-3 proper games. Get rid of the league and replace with a 10 team all Ireland competition that runs from late April to early Sept. The locking away of county players from clubs until championship is finished needs to stop - if there are 2-3 week breaks between county games, county players could easily play for their club in between. Inter county championship matches were an integral part of the Irish summer until a few years ago with each month marking a different stage in the championship's progression but we've ditched that and created a nonsensical county vs. club divide.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭Stationmaster


    Yea, and Frank Lohans son was excellent for the Galway minors last night… pity we couldn't have got jobs and houses for Ollie and Frank at home!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,290 ✭✭✭endainoz


    Oliie became a guard if I remember roughly so was probably sent there



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭Gael85


    He is Garda Superintendent in Ballinasloe. His wife is Superintendent in Athlone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,831 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,112 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Typical GAA

    Could those refs not do Leinster game each and Leinster refs do the Munster games



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭Krazy gang


    That's a great post. As you say what is wrong with players going from county to club games. It would actually increase interest in club games too. Player's could be brought into co panels of the back of impressive club displays



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,831 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Whats wrong is we tried this already and it was a massive failure because players won't risk playing club in between.

    These arguments are like goldfish going round and round forgetting every rotation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭jommer01


    Split season is here to stay at all costs I think. As great as the munster championship has been and as much as I love it, I think some modification to the format is still worthy of discussion and consideration.

    The jeopardy as they say is what makes it and teams need to be knocked out, but to me it feels like the business end of the championship is a bit front loaded. The team that comes third in munster now has a 4 week break before a quarter final and the quarter finals for whatever reason haven't really captured the attention of anyone in recent years. Semi finals weekend is brilliant and then with the final two weeks later it feels like it's all over in a flash.

    I haven't really a clue what should be done but scrapping or at least shortening the league and extending the championship in some way would be a good place to start any discussion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,021 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    A good start would be to just forget about any league final.. scrap it..Tipp, Cork and Kerry last 2 years making no attempt to win the final.

    Whoever is top after the full round of 6 or 7 games wins the league. That would be 2 or 3 weeks off the calender right there.

    EVENFLOW



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 526 ✭✭✭Iecrawfc


    Maybe not the Mcdonagh but maybe some sort of tournament for teams not making the all ireland latter stages, teams might lose players to America but would be an opportunity for fringe players to stake a claim or for Carlow or Kildare to take a scalp or 2.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭Krazy gang


    You could get injured training with the county as handy as a club match



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 320 ✭✭Baseball72


    I’m not hugely into GAA but I lived in Wexford for a number of years and appreciate a fine game of hurling. The GAA don’t realise how great a product they have in the hurling championship but in its current format it’s crazy that it’s suddenly over before it really gets going.


    they need to move away from the provincial structure- it does not serve the game well. I agree something like a 10 county league structure should run from early spring to late summer with structured gaps to allow player’s return to their clubs (as in rugby).


    it would drive TV interest and increase the games appeal beyond these shores….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,176 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    The system is the best ever. The best they can do is maybe delay the season by 2 weeks and have the final end of July/ early August.

    I'm on the verge of a site ban. Please don't rage bait me, I'm easily triggered especially late at night!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,176 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    The two eliminated from Leinster and Munster play a tailteann like semi final and the final gets played on all Ireland semi final Day. That's the best we can do.

    I'm on the verge of a site ban. Please don't rage bait me, I'm easily triggered especially late at night!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,584 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Jesus right in the middle of the championship with, if anything, too many matches going on each weekend so that it ends too quickly, and yet all anyone is talking about is the championship structures again. You have all winter to complain and make up awful hypothetical structures that are going to make Kildare good and let Waterford lose six matches and still not be out.

    This weekend on the other hand you have an my absolutely fascinating match between kilkenny and Dublin, that could lead to kilkenny going out of the championship at this stage for the first time in the round robin era, and nobody seems to have an opinion about it.

    Be interested to hear from the Dublin lads what the thoughts are about how they'll approach it. I thought last week that they became a different monster when they had hetherton and the other big lad inside (sorry I forget his name) and just went direct, but I'm not sure that approach works for seventy minutes and I think kk are better set up to deal with direct ball than Galway are, defensively. Wondering as well if kk will revert to keeping tj on the edge of the square, hopefully moving Cody out to cf to give rushe something to think about and not be able to drop back. We're missing molloy so might need to drop Kenny to midfield which limits our attacking options in a major way. There are alternative plans but either way we'll be robbing the half back or half forward line.

    Kk have looked extremely vulnerable this year, Dublin are on the up, home game, momentum and the smell of blood in the water will bring a big home crowd. Kk need to make a huge statement here and if we don't, we are better off going home early anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,831 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Feels like its been said about Dublin loads of times now but they really need to win this one otherwise it's just the same old up and down stuff from them.

    They need to be in the Leinster final and win or at least be close to beating Galway and whoever comes 2nd or 3rd out of Munster.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 921 ✭✭✭LeoD


    I don't think the players would have much of an issue - it's the managers that want total control over everything. From listening to Pat Ryan on the Indo GAA podcast when talking about Fitzgibbon, he said players prefer and have no physical problem playing college and county in the Spring. The risk is no greater than playing training matches. The increasingly obsessive all consuming arms race preparation for inter county teams will damage the game long term.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,389 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Ronan Hayes you are thinking of. Dublin will be bursting a gut to beat KK. So much hard luck stories versus them historically. Plus even a weak Cats side have a certain historical prestige - to me anyway.

    No disrespect to Wexford, I view them as close to the same level as the Dublin hurlers. KK are a notch up, and unlike Galway they never have a flaky mentality either.

    The Cats always have high workrate and effort no matter how much the player skill level dips. If any team beats a KK side they earned it. That’s what I think anyway.

    One thing that always perplexes me is how Dublin hurling produces a consistent run of top class free takers in the last few decade's ? It’s mad : McCrabbe, Paul Ryan, Donal Burke. Jayus, some top counties seem to struggle to find one.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,833 ✭✭✭MfMan


    Galway minors didn't have a flaky mentality the other evening.



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