Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 02/09/25*

The punishment should have been deportation when he first began.

The claim was 54 % of asylum seekers have third level education nothing to do with Congalese . I just asked for a link . You seem to be on a different track or is it a desperation to post rubbish .

So many posters have so many different ways of phrasing cowardly language to try and hide the grim fact that they're delighted a black man was strangled to death on Henry Street in broad daylight, on camera.

Their wet dream.

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Obviously the security guards did'nt mean to murder him, but in my opinion they are in serious trouble, doesn't look good at all.

Some of the security guards are so old and unfit that the only way they could restrain him is to put their knees on his throat , they should have stayed out of it altogather .

From the video the deceased looked like he was alive, unarmed, and with the weight of 5 adult men on top of him, you can see the pressure on his head and neck being applied with knees/full bodyweight.. It looked more like a Lynching than a group of professional security guards using their training to hold a suspect down, not even once did they check to see was he still conscious or sit him up so he could breath while they awaited the Gardai.

There's almost no difference between this incident and what happened to George Floyd.

If a white man had been killed by a black security guard/s in this manner, many thousands of racist social media accounts would have been calling for racist pogroms against black people in Dublin.

Instead, racists craft creative language to display their delight at this man's death while attempting to hide behind plausible deniability. And just wait for the vilification of people protesting against what happened.

The usual way of the coward.

An Irish centrist is left wing by all international standards.

You actually think that I am grinning with delight here? That I am experiencing a “wet dream” (using that foul imagery of yours, characteristic of left wing argument)? You are utterly mistaken. You have created a fiction that suits your needs and now believe it with absolute certainty.

"International standards."

ie. America. Which is obviously where you get your views from.

I don't really care about what the "standards" are in other countries. I care about Ireland. I care about our standards.

Funny how the far right claim to love Ireland so much and yet want to run our country according to the standards of other countries.

Almost like they just hate Ireland.

I have literally no idea what you are talking about. I have not reached for racism; I have been told that my language disguises it.

“Combining survey data since 1973 and all Irish election studies between 2002 and 2020, we show that the average Irish voter now leans to the centre-left.”

“The analysis suggests a major leftward shift in Irish politics over the past decade.”

What??

What a strange choice of phrase, it does seem very confused. It's possible to love Ireland without holding far-right politics, you know.

I'm not going to listen to a 55 minute podcast at your behest, by the way. From the covering text it does seem to be a shift over time in Ireland alone, however, but maybe by "Europe" you also mean the likes of Hungary under Orban? Otherwise you're the one making the claim so the onus is on you to defend it.

I note you’ve ignored my two comments that refute your position, instead replying to my discussion with another poster.

That poster said I am a right winger who claims to love his country. I disproved that by saying I will never be heard saying I love my country, partly because of the violent nationalism that the far-right reveres.

He is a foreign criminal with a history of stealing from Arnott’s, according to Gript.

Because I don’t know many Google workers housed by the Salvation Army and stealing from a shop.

Citizenship should be revoked for criminals 100% also the timeline for citizenship in Ireland is ludicrously low but I think it's getting extended a bit this year.

You don't know the facts in this case either, do you?

Wasnt an 80 year old man pushed out of the way n ended up with a broken hip prior to the fella getting pinned down?

Had he weapons on him ? What drugs if any did he have in his system? Etc etc

Watched the video a couple times, its a grim watch, the security are way too excessive, shoplifting doesn't carry the death penalty.

They are completely incompetent if it takes 5/6 men to sit on someone to control them. I have seen some horrible racist scummy comments online sadly, happy to justify this.

There was a vigil for the man that died yesterday and several NGO's are up in arms over this, like the Africa Solidarity Centre. Micheál Martin has also expressed his sympathies to the man's family and said the incident must be "thoroughly" investigated. Looks like we could have an Irish version of #blacklivesmatter