Nuclear - future for Ireland?

Oh no how will they survive as a country after all you told us this is not possible /s

Meanwhile we remain the most expensive in Europe while producing 20x co2 of France today

LOL.

If EDF were building NPPs in Poland, The Czech Republic and Slovakia rather than Westinghouse and KHNP you would be the first on here questioning their credibility.

We are not our neighbours. We have no nuclear. No offshore generation, and will not have this side of 2030, and two of the four granted strike prices I would view with the same scepticism I viewed Sceirde Rocks at the same stage.

They have 5.9 GW of nuclear, are adding a further 6.4 GW, and all with over twice the capacity factor and three times the lifespan.

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Dont forget , yes the ESB has made it expensive to build grid storage ,batteries or pumped storage -

But they've also made it expensive to build gas and wind-turbines - and likely expensive to build nuclear, - any cheap government financing,and streamlining of energy planning and development laws and regs,will likely benefit all energy projects ..

I doubt we'll ever get to the stage where we'll build more than a few hours worth of grid storage .. which in fairness would be great..

Also , Nuclear would also need the same batteries and a level of storage to handle peaks and flows in demand..

If you are going to base your decision on the cost of an alternative plan involving nuclear, before you start looking at anywhere else as a comparison, then you are going to first have something to compare it too. And that would be the cost of the present plan taking into account the relative lifespans and capacity factors.

So why are you and others here so seemingly knowledgeable in all things nuclear in opposing it, yet cannot even give as much as a single figure for the current plan we are following ?

Far as I can see there can only be two reasons. You do not know, or you do know and it is financially insane.

You are either getting ahead of yourself again, or just performing further gymnastics attempting to again avoid answering the question.

If you know the cost of wind farm turbines on shore, fixed offshore and floating offshore and their relative capacity factors and lifespans, as well as the same for solar farms, - plus the cost of green hydrogen production and cost to the consumer when used ,- then you have all you need to work out, not just the cost of this current plan, but also the cost of electricity to the consumer by continuing to follow it. So why not show it ?

Vs 200bn+

One solution costs tens of billions and is proven to work today the other costs and order of magnitude more in the hundreds of billions and works nowhere

Focusing on cost when the current path (where we already built 9GW of renewables) if it ever completes and has already led us to have the most expensive (and still dirty) electricity in Europe is mad

Yet plenty will be imported while our current energy policies lock us into sky high energy bills - and thats b4 the madness of the current governments Data centre policies are full unleashed….

we have high energy bills because in this country along with the UK, the consumer is expected to pay the greater share of the costs associated with energy + the reliance on high expensivity gas.

in france and others, the tax payer pays the greater share, so if you want cheap electricity, then subsidization is the only option as even cheap renewables can only go so far.

all of those countries support their nuclear by substantial subsidies.

margional pricing and everything else is all backed up by subsidy.

ultimately, it is subsidy that keeps electricity prices low and we don't really do that in this country, instead expecting the user to pay most of the cost.

Why? We were sold a lie that renewables are cheap and clean

Turns out they are neither

We are about twice more expensive than France and about 20x more polluting than them after building 9GW of renewables in a country that needs about 5GW

we are dependent on gas precisely because renewables need backup most of the time

Due to their 30 and 10% capacity factors

If you bought a cheap car that only worked a tenth to a third of the time forcing you to take expensive Ubers most of time to get to work you be well pissed off (and ripped off)

Problem is that nobody seems to know what the full installed amount will be, what these other sources will be and how much it would all cost.

If you compare the uber taxi we use as backup for renewables + the 14.6% of electricity we imported last year to keep the volume down, to France, Sweden and Finland, their uber taxi drivers would be penniless and looking for another career.

Yeah, not a great look for them.

Still, similar to the U.K. and Denmark not getting a single bid for a round of their offshore offerings, at least they now know who is really calling the shots.

Even if you plug-in the most expensive of new reactors you still come well short of the trillion+ Germany spent and has nothing to show for

Meanwhile loads of opposition to new gas plants needed for unreliable renewables

https://www.independent.ie/county/galway/opposition-grows-to-planned-galway-gas-plant-as-fundraiser-nears-target/a/151738901.html