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General British politics discussion thread

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  • #20042
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,833 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124473517#Comment_124473517

    Charismatic compared to stuffy old Tories according to that notorious exiting riotous group the political correspondents.



  • #20043
    Randycove
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,230 ✭✭✭Randycove


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124473497#Comment_124473497

    the point being?



  • #20044
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,728 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124473550#Comment_124473550

    Advertisements within the UK are increasingly predatory and indicative of a struggling economy.

    Sure ads were always there to try to generate business, but in the past, they were led by aspirational sentiment and still exists to some extent, but increasingly as the OP on the topic pointed out, that is not the case.

    Gambling, accumulation of debt, asset grabbing, payday loans (which have been challenged to some extent in recent years) are all more indicative of preying on vulnerable "marks" than seeking to market quality products to customer base with disposable income. Think of all the ads that focus on supposed low cost (0% interest, Buy now - pay later, buy 2 get 1 free) etc, these are all trying to squeeze the last money from peoples hands, not appeal to the customer based on the quality of product. That is telling.



  • #20045
    retalivity
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,836 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Yaxley-Lennons latest march/grift lools like being a dud, vastly outnumbered by the pro-palestine/anti-fascist counter march. Will they now be proscribed as terrorists i wonder?



  • #20046
    Randycove
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,230 ✭✭✭Randycove


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124473607#Comment_124473607

    that’s not indicative of a struggling economy at all, it is indicative of TV companies looking to increase their revenues as advertisers move to other platforms. It used to be that there were three commercial TV channels, not only are there hundreds more now, there are also other platforms, namely social media.
    the UK has strict advertising rules and anything that advertises finance is also subject to FCA rules as well.
    there are far too many gambling ads and sponsored programmes (I would ban all gambling adverts personally) but you and Happy Gilmore seem to think every channel is showing endless amounts of payday loans and gambling ads. What I see arms to be loads of ads for **** cruises and electric cars !



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  • #20047
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,833 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124473621#Comment_124473621

    One Raise the Flag member arrested at Huston Station as he was wanted for a hit and run last night on a resident in Birmingham who was taking down flags. Numerous reports of intimidation and violence committed by them yesterday.

    Im sure all sides will want to see these violent people proscribed.



  • #20048
    PommieBast
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,031 ✭✭✭PommieBast


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124473607#Comment_124473607

    Add to that the charity adverts (usually for animals) that go all in on tugging heart strings.

    Apart from live sports broadcast television has had problems with demographics/clientelle for a very long time. If anything they are well ahead of the curve economically.



  • #20049
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,728 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    The News Agents podcast titles from last 3 days.

    • Wednesday - Could Labours Leadership chaos make Ed Miliband PM?
    • Thursday - Wes Streeting Resigns - Is the challenge over - or just beginning?
    • Friday - Is Andy Burnham about to become Prime Minister?

    Is it going to be a head to head against Streeting and Burnham*? Are there any other candidates who would look to boost their profile by spending a few days in the media conversation?

    * (If Burnham wins byelection)



  • #20050
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,728 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Watching some of the clips from the Unite the kingdom today and one thing is very clear.

    If the references to Islam and traditional Muslim clothing were replaced with references to Judasim and Jewish identity symbols as speakers called for all traces of the religion to be removed from West Minster, and the clothing was worn by people ridiculing it, there would be a Cobra meeting happening right now.

    Why is there such disparate reactions to the instance of religious reference, depending on the religion involved?



  • #20051
    A Dub in Glasgo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,681 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124475134#Comment_124475134

    Maybe some others can provide an answer because I cannot but what I do know that there always has been this level inconsistancy and the media do not call it out.



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  • #20052
    deirdremf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭deirdremf


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124475473#Comment_124475473

    It used to be the catholics they hated. In my time in England, I came across constant anti-catholic bigotry, of a type that would never have been tolerated against jews or protestants.

    Now they have moved on because muslims are more visible and therefore easier to hate than catholics.

    I somehow suspect that if you scratch them you will find anti-catholic bigotry is still there, but not quite so close to the surface.

    For the record, I'm anti-catholic myself. Also anti-protestant, anti-muslim and anti-jewish etc; prior to the Gaza genocide, my distaste was equal across the board.



  • #20053
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,156 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124477009#Comment_124477009

    I came across constant anti-catholic bigotry, of a type that would never have been tolerated against jews or protestants.

    Now they have moved on because muslims are more visible and therefore easier to hate than catholics.

    What was inspiring that? This sort of thing?

    images (39).jpg

    Surely very few 'Catholics' live that sort of feckless lifestyle nowadays?



  • #20054
    A Dub in Glasgo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,681 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    It is now clear that the team behind Streeting have set up Burnham regarding Brexit. They want Labour to lose the by-election



  • #20055
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,156 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124478335#Comment_124478335

    You mean by raising the prospect of Britain rejoining EU and associating Labour with that? And Burnham is broadly pro-EU so he can't completely dissociate himself from the prospect…



  • #20056
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 46,219 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Sure the Labour Party were in favour of remaining in the EU so their members wanting to rejoin shouldn't really be a surprise.

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  • #20057
    A Dub in Glasgo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,681 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124478460#Comment_124478460

    He can't although Streeting has now made the by-election about 'rolling back Brexit'. Why would he do that?



  • #20058
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 33,942 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124478472#Comment_124478472

    Well, they were lukewarm at best about remaining in the EU at the time - particularly the further left of the party.



  • #20059
    ancapailldorcha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,422 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124478547#Comment_124478547

    It's worse than that. Corbyn's office actively frustrated the Labour Remain campaign so that a lot of Labour voters had no idea what the party thought.

    It'd have been one thing for them to have been honest about their Euroscepticism but they decided to have their cake and eat it.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • #20060
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,156 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124478472#Comment_124478472

    I think it's the idea that Labour in government after the next election might be taking active steps to make that happen that could potentially get voters' backs up.



  • #20061
    ancapailldorcha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,422 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124478571#Comment_124478571

    It actively does get backs up:

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    I think Starmer's approach is the right one. Most people see Brexit as being a disaster but it's a leap from there to reopening the whole tedious, acrimonious debate all over again.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • #20062
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,991 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124478335#Comment_124478335

    No doubt, that's the aim. The only problem for Streeting is, if Burnham isn't his opponent, it will be Angela Rayner. Within the Lb party ranks, she'll beat him hands down.



  • #20063
    Tell me how
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    He left himself wide open to this.

    https://twitter.com/i/status/2056419905692418287


  • #20064
    Ozymandius2011
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 4,696 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    The Guardian explores ties between some Churches and the Far Right. One priest who turned up at one of Tommy Robinson's rallies warns about white "ethnocide" from abortions. Seems to be an attempt to import US style "Christian Nationalism". Also river baptisms. Some of these clergy are outside the Chuurch of England.

    The one doing the river baptisms is a bishop of the "Confessing Anglican Church". Denies being a "Christian Nationalist". He also speaks at Tommy Robinsons events.

    At Unite the Kingdom rally–type events, reporting and commentary around recent London rallies notes the presence of:

    • Christian imagery (crosses, prayers, “Christian Britain” messaging)
    • pastors and speakers from evangelical networks
    • loosely affiliated “Christian nationalist” activists

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSnH2Z5lGqk


  • #20065
    ancapailldorcha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,422 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124486586#Comment_124486586

    I would expect them all to be outside the Church of England. Obviously, there may be sympathetic voices within the official Church.

    It looks like they want to import the megachurch grift from the US. Reform UK themselves have intimate connections with the American right, including James Orr who is a Professor of Divinity at the University of Cambridge and former mentor to one JD Vance.

    I quite liked this from Starmer:

    https://twitter.com/PolitlcsUK/status/2057065250357154255?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E2057065250357154255%7Ctwgr%5E1d024196f152fb9436e02df6bd4926ba09e7e3ad%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thepoke.com%2F2026%2F05%2F20%2Fkeir-starmer-jokes-polanski-andy-burnham%2F

    I agree with the Green MPs point but that won't be changing any time soon.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • #20066
    A Dub in Glasgo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,681 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124486649#Comment_124486649

    You quite liked that Starmer ignored the question and indulged in whataboutery?



  • #20067
    L1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76,149 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Starmer using his first opportunity to use a quip someone wrote for him, I suspect



  • #20068
    ancapailldorcha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,422 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    In fairness, PMQs has long been a farce dedicated to pretty much everything but answering actual questions.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • #20069
    aidanodr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,527 ✭✭✭aidanodr


    About UK and closer co-operation with EU.

    By Professor Hussein Kassim, Professor of European Public Policy and Administration, University of Warwick.

    "A year after EU leaders met Keir Starmer at Lancaster House on 19 May 2025, the optimism that accompanied the conclusion of the talks has faded.

    In short, the signs twelve months after the summit are mixed at best. The absence of the announcement of a date for a second summit bears eloquent testimony to the distance between the two sides that remains. In addition, unanticipated legal complexities and controversies concerning the mechanisms the government will need to adopt to make parts of an agreement work appear themselves to have opened a pandora’s box."

    https://ukandeu.ac.uk/a-year-since-the-eu-uk-summit-where-are-we-now/


  • #20070
    ancapailldorcha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,422 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    In other news:


    Net migration to the UK fell by nearly 50% to 171,000 last year, according to official figures released on Thursday, in what will be seen as a boost for Keir Starmer’s government.

    Data released by the Office for National Statistics (ONS) showed the difference between the number of people moving to the UK and the number of people leaving was at its lowest level since 2021.

    The figure was down 48% year on year from 331,000 in 2024, extending a sharp decline from a record peak of 944,000 in 2023.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/may/21/net-migration-uk-falls-labour-vow-cut-numbers

    Sadly, the government's complete inability to do any kind of PR means that it is experiencing the political downside of high immigration while doing the opposite for no political benefit of any kind. In other words, it's Thursday.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/may/21/voters-across-parties-believe-uk-net-migration-is-rising-despite-sharp-drop

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • #20071
    deirdremf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭deirdremf


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124486695#Comment_124486695

    In fairness, that poster has been an unconditional supporter of Starmer and the zionist lobby all the way through.



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