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Fr Ted creator/writer Graham Linehan Arrested over posts on Transgender issues

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    Aren't all police at Heathrow airport armed?

    Well he obviously wasn't being investigated by the airport police and he was scheduled to appear in court so there was no need to arrest him at Heathrow. It was total over-reach.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,513 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    Still waiting to hear how my rights or yours have been attacked because of this?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,337 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    The same group keeps popping up for all these criminals and hate mongers being defended on thread.

    A Body called Free Speech Union. Founded by this absolute beauty. They also represented Linehan.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toby_Young

    Worth a read.

    In 2012, Young wrote an article in The Spectator criticising the emphasis on "inclusion" in state schools, saying that the word "inclusive" was "one of those ghastly, politically correct words that have survived the demise of New Labour. Schools have got to be 'inclusive' these days. That means wheelchair ramps, the complete works of Alice Walker in the school library..."

    In 2015, Young wrote an article for the Australian magazine Quadrant entitled "The fall of meritocracy". Under a section titled "Progressive eugenics"[62] he discussed developments in genetically engineered intelligence, and proposed that should the technology for selecting embryos for high intelligence become practicable, it could be provided "free of charge to parents on low incomes with below-average IQs.”

    Always the same hateful cranks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    You'll be alright just don't support Palestine Action and you'll be fine. Watch out they may redefine certain phrases like 'globalise….' as terrorism.

    But you'll be okay, just obey the law even when it's an ass.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,445 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,513 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    So my rights haven't been attacked, neither have yours, good to know your "everyone's rights have been attacked" statement was pure nonsense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    The question misses the point. The point being that we are all affected by totalitarian tendencies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,513 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    You stated this was an attack on everyone's rights, I'm simply asking how this has attacked mine or your rights?

    The fact that you cannot answer how it has attacked them proves your statement to be nonsense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,922 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    I think most folks would agree it was a huge misstep alright, just feeds into certain people's persecution complexes and leads to them doubling down even further.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,445 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    See, the Linehan victimhood narrative gets debunked and then we statements like this which resemble affirmations of faith.

    The question is the point. How am I, a UK resident, affected? Your failure to answer speaks volumes.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,019 ✭✭✭OscarMIlde


    It wasn't debunked. There was widespread criticism of the arrest after it happened and non-crime hate incidents as a policing matter was scrapped earlier this year.

    “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,050 ✭✭✭plodder


    I don't endorse Linehan's views on Palestine because I've no idea what they are. I'm not interested in his views about Palestine.

    What I do think is interesting is that you agree it was right to cancel him the moment he said anything that you see was "anti trans" because he's not a doctor, lawyer, psychologist or sociologist (😀 god help us)

    Regarding the Observer link, I actually agree with it. For his own mental health he should shut up about it for a while.

    “The opposite of 'good' is 'good intentions'”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    You have to be living under a rock not to know Linehans views on Palestine. Hei si unable to work as he has over the last few years lost friends and accumulated enemies yet he still gets many publications and podcasts to interview him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 917 ✭✭✭maik3n


    I'm not sure how you are getting the poster is agreeing with or said anything about him being cancelled?

    The poster is quite rightly pointing out how stupid it is for RTE or any other media outlet for that matter, to have Glinner on as any kind of expert/authority on ''Trans Issues'' or even the Genocide in Gaza.
    Whether he is/was pro or anti trans, his expertise/authority'' on the ''trans issue'' and many other issues for that matter, amounts to sh*tposting/trolling online about the subject.

    Last time I checked, someones former glory as a comedy writer doesn't endow them with expertise/authority on some other important matter. It really just beggars belief.
    With that of that said, by all means, he is still a ''celebrity'' in his own right, so is allowed to offer his opinion on things but thats all it is. RTE or other media outlets don't need to seek him out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,091 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    You do know his views on Palestine because they’re outlined in the post you replied to. If you’re happy to condone them, that’s your business.

    What I do think is interesting is that you agree it was right to cancel him 

    I didn’t say anything of the sort, but I’d dispute the claim that he’s been cancelled at all. He’s far more famous and gets far more exposure now than ever, and if he hadn’t gone down this path, he’d be a nobody right now. Father Ted was 30 years ago, The IT Crowd was 20 years ago. I don’t listen to Joe Rogan or Megyn Kelley because I’m not a conspiracy lunatic but I doubt they feature too many washed-up UK comedy writers on their podcasts.

    But for a legitimate and reasonable debate on trans issues, he simply has no standing or qualification. Not being given air time in normal media outlets isn’t cancellation, it’s basic common sense.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,719 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    I don't really know if Linehan was cancelled as I don't know what he was working on before he got into this stuff and his carry on wasn't and isn't what you'd expect from a professional. I remember years ago hearing about this twitter thing so I thought I'd check it out and came across his account. It was pretty toxic back then, so when you're doing stuff like that in a public facing industry you're always going to have problems.

    It does happen from time to time that celebrities can become spokespeople for certain causes, Liam Cunningham and Gaza being one, but even then they don't get access to the media whenever they want.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,838 ✭✭✭scottser


    Linehan has nothing to contribute to a discussion on gender. Nor has he anything to contribute to a discussion on things antisemitic. He's not been 'cancelled' by any means, it's just that his views offer no real perspective at all; he's not a woman and he's not Israeli, so what does he think he has to teach anyone on those issues? He has no skin in the game and it's weird to see someone get so hysterical about issues that don't affect them personally at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,245 ✭✭✭growleaves


    No, there are armed police at Heathrow connected to the Aviation Policing Command but also unarmed ordinary police constables as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,095 ✭✭✭aero2k


    Just catching up here.

    It's notable that those who are most vociferous in condemning Linehan's conduct (and I think we are all condemning it to a greater or lesser degree, though some of us acknowledge that it takes a bit of moral courage to state opinions which are deemed unacceptable in the current environment) have nothing at all to say about Sophia's conduct, which was a lot more insidious imho. And the people telling Linehan to get help don't have any advice for poor Sophia, who is very young and really needs to be taken aside by a friend or relative for a helpful chat.

    I thought that Observer article was actually quite gentle on Glinner - though the journalist probably needs to toughen up a bit - he seems pretty upset about being asked a few questions.

    The folks who were so exercised about tweets from JK Rowling - remember many of her tweets have been in response to personal attacks, doxxing, and death treats - who were also saying that Lenihan does nothing for women's safety, and that Rowling put a metaphorical target on Emma Watson's back which nobody actually hit, afaik, are cool with an actual target being put on Angela Carini's face, which Imane Khalif was happy to punch multiple times. I wonder, for all of you who are ok with this - and I'm using the upthread logic that if you aren't out on the street with a loudhailer protesting against it then you are in favour of it - would you prefer to be hit with a few well-worded, witty, and factually correct tweets or punched in the fact by someone with 260% of your power?

    If someone on here found themselves on the receiving end of some shockingly hypocritical behaviour, where someone was trying to be friends with you in private while dissing you in public because that was the fashionable thing to do, would you keep it to yourself?

    I heard the Linehan piece on Newstalk - he really is very unlikeable.

    The Observer piece mentioned Venlafaxine. I've previously speculated that Linehan might be suffering adverse drug effects - I've linked an article below about how this type of drug can affect impulse control. It focuses on gambling, but there are other behavioural changes. A few extracts:

    “It’s not a targeted drug, it doesn’t target depression specifically, it targets everything. It takes away all of your feelings, so you become a shell of a person. You’re still able to function, but you just don’t feel anything, you don’t feel any fear of consequences at all,” he said.

    “I contacted Pfizer and I asked if they knew that Efexor could possibly cause gambling and sexual misconduct and they responded with, ‘oh yes we knew that, 0.8% of people will get that’,” he said. Pfizer informed Paul these dangers were presented as a possible side effect in the medication packaging under the umbrella term “uninhibited behaviours”.

    “When Efexor is taken at high dosages it triggers a flood of dopamine and becomes what we call a ‘dopamine agonist’. This can be responsible for the types of dangerous impulsive behaviours.”

    Four months since extricating himself from Efexor, Paul is still attempting pick up the pieces of a life decimated by ICDs. “You don’t fix three years of that type of behaviour in three months,” he said.

    “It’s really the family side of things, its healing the wounds there that is going to be the big thing, I might not be able to keep the family together. I’ve got a wonderful wife and I’ve got to fight for that.”



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,719 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    I don't you need to necessarily have skin in the game to have an opinion on something. One of the things that triggered Linehan was gender paediatric medicine. Anyone who has even a slight scientific background who does some reading into this area comes to the same conclusion, what are these people doing! It really is as bad as it gets.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,095 ✭✭✭aero2k


    I can't understand how they square it with the Hippocratic oath - first do no harm. Tens of thousands harmed, and some people think Linehan is a monster for calling attention to it.

    Post edited by aero2k on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,050 ✭✭✭plodder


    "I didn't say anything of the sort"

    You said this:

    He's not an expert on any transgender issues, he's not a doctor, a psychologist, a sociologist, a lawyer, nor does he have any direct life experience of transgender issues. So why on earth would you have him on a serious discussion about trans issues?

    I took that as you agreeing with the people who said he should not be allowed on a panel to discuss transgenderism.

    The irony is that the same people who said that in 2019, said the same about the doctors in the National Gender Service who weren't fully on board with affirming trans kids without asking any questions.

    “The opposite of 'good' is 'good intentions'”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,838 ✭✭✭scottser


    Having an opinion is fine but if that opinion is not based in real experience, fact, or refence to expert opinion, it's just not terribly relevant. Screaming and shouting your irrelevant opinion is just a bad look on anyone who claims even a modicum of intelligence.

    For a start, the world should be big enough to cope with a group of people who have a genuine gender dysmorphia. We should, as intelligent and emotionally switched on folks, be mature enough to handle people who are going through it. We really should be above such questions as 'can a man have a baby' and 'can a woman have a penis' and instead be asking 'why does a group of our fellow citizens have a higher suicide rate, higher incidence of self harm and addiction, be subject to assault without provocation, are denied services and treatment and then discouraged from making complaint, being heard'.

    Yes, there are only two human sexes. There is however, a whole mess of flexibility when it comes to gender, sexual attraction, brain chemistry, hormones etc. We are not all the same. That difference, those misunderstandings are the very essence of comedy and Linehan, of ALL people should understand that.

    The man is an arsehole.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,114 ✭✭✭✭volchitsa


    You missed another important question: most of those issues being a result of male violence, should it really be a given that women should be forced to cede their rights to single sex spaces to protect other males from that violence?

    As for the idea that comedians, even leftwing ones, are likely to be better people than the average: that completely ignores the numbers of comedians who are absolute 'arseholes'. Louis CK being just one who deliberately exploited his fame to harass and abuse women.

    "If a woman cannot stand in a public space and say, without fear of consequences, that men cannot be women, then women have no rights at all." Helen Joyce



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,114 ✭✭✭✭volchitsa


    That's an intriguing possibility. It's also worth remembering that this all blew up for Linehan when he posted something as he was recovering from major surgery for cancer, while he was still on large doses of morphine. As I recall it, he did try to explain later but as we've seen in other cases, there's no forgiveness from the mob.

    So it seems like he decided that, as nothing but total submission had any chance of appeasing the TRAs, and maybe not even then, and he wasn't prepared to do that, then he may as well go all out in opposition to them, saying what we know from other sources many of his showbiz mates were saying privately, and hoping - I suppose - that his public stance on abortion rights etc in Ireland meant he would have enough credibility as someone who was clearly not a rightwing nutjob.

    Eaten bread is soon forgotten though, and they turned on him. I agree that he failed to respond with the grace and intelligence of JK Rowling - but TBF I don't think she's been given any credit for NOT becoming an abusive prick. So it probably wouldn't have made any difference anyway.

    "If a woman cannot stand in a public space and say, without fear of consequences, that men cannot be women, then women have no rights at all." Helen Joyce



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,091 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    he should not be allowed on a panel to discuss transgenderism

    No - to be very clear here, I’m not saying he shouldn’t be allowed on such a panel, only that he has no qualification or standing to do so. If a program wants to invite him on, great, but he should have no expectation or entitlement to it, he’s just a bloke with (very strong) opinions on something of which he has no direct experience.

    Like, I’ve never seen Vogue Williams on a panel discussing the conflict in Iran, but I don’t think she’s been cancelled.

    As I said, he’s an ideal candidate for a discussion on internet culture wars, rabbit holes and self-destruction.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,719 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    The man is an arse but he was one of the first to publicly point out the problems with gender paediatric medicine and the failings of society to balance the rights of women, children, and what the LGBTQ+ community wants. We should be able to accommodate everyone in society but that doesn't mean ignoring the rights of women and children and that's where we are at the moment. We should be above "can a woman have a penis" but the problem here is that one side very forcibly says they can and the law in Ireland has been changed to say they can too.

    I agree with you on the mental health aspect but evidence based methods are how you help people. The LGBTQ+ community are very much against this and are lobbying various governments around the world to change the law to make things worse for gender distressed people.

    I agree with you on the difference between sex and gender but again the laws of the land, and many other places too, are being changed to say sex and gender are regarded as the same level of importance and should be considered the same thing.

    You'll find that the majority of people have no problem and will be supportive of trans people but that other people have rights too.

    However militant and obnoxious you think Linehan, is, and he is, have a look at the other side and you'll see many very similar or worse attitudes. Linehan says some bad things but he's never said anything as bad as TERFs must die.

    There was a big piece in Unherd yesterday about the failings of the BBC to accurately cover this topic. Now whatever anyone things of that publication they have direct quotes from some senior people saying effectively the BBC failed to meet it's journalistic standards on trans.

    Inside the capture of the BBC

    I'm pretty sure the same has happened in RTE.

    Post edited by CatFromHue on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,395 ✭✭✭Enduro


    They exist. Please stop trying to deny that trans identifying people exist.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,050 ✭✭✭plodder


    However he is portrayed, he is still able to write coherently and convincingly as this piece in the Telegraph today shows

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/05/20/the-met-apologised-to-me-but-i-am-not-accepting-it/

    Free link: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/1824c557328e0112

    In 2018, I revealed that the trans activist Stephanie Hayden was a fraudster using his trans identity to escape his creditors, and a serial vexatious litigant. For posting this on Twitter, the police rang me at home and gave me a verbal warning. A later visit, prompted by a complaint from Adrian Harrop, a doctor whose licence to practise was eventually suspended for his own online conduct, brought officers to my front door. That visit, as I’ve said elsewhere, was one of the things that broke my marriage. My wife, understandably, could not live with the police arriving at the house with all the
    seriousness of a murder inquiry.

    In October 2024, Sophia Brooks was photographed outside the LGB Alliance conference. Inside, a group of well-connected young activists had released thousands of insects into a hall full of lesbians, gay men and bisexual people. To me, that was a terrorist-style attack on LGB people in the heart of London, and I had no doubt who was behind it. I knew exactly who Brooks was. He had a long history of pretending online to be people he wasn’t, a detransitioner at one point, a feminist at another, in order to win the confidence of women and then use what he’d extracted from them to harass and torment them. I wanted to strip away the anonymity he’d been hiding behind.

    For that, the Crown Prosecution Service pursued me for harassment and criminal damage. The harassment charge collapsed. The criminal damage conviction was overturned this month at Southwark Crown Court. None of it should ever have come to court.

    Whatever about some of the things he said online, none of that should have happened, and (partly) due to him, the system is being reformed.

    Any of the people he's named above could have used the civil courts if they think they were defamed by him. The heavy hand of PC Plod is totally out of order for resolving (what in reality are) petty hand-bag disputes over he-said /she said.

    And let's be honest here, the ideologues have tried to use the police and the state to enforce their ideology. It was an experiment that has failed (in the UK at least). It remains to be seen just how captured the state still is here.

    Post edited by plodder on

    “The opposite of 'good' is 'good intentions'”



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,445 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Nothing remotely convincing there. Just his usual victimhood narrative.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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