Kilkenny GAA Thread

It's a terribly condescending attitude towards an outsider giving an opinion. And what's really clear is he won't take it from someone from a county like Laois.

We're proud in Laois, a small county divided between football and hurling. You won't have much success as the odds are against you. Yet men like Mick Dempsey helped Kilkenny hurling.

Old timers with superiority complexes would do well to remember the adage 'a wise man will learn from a fool, but a fool won't learn from a wise man'.

Thanks Marrooned, I've followed this thread for years and know who's who, 90% of you are A1.

Taught we left it behind in normal time, only point up at HT after doing most of the hurling with the wind wides killed us, Galway turned the screw 3rd quarter getting 7 points in a row and introducing Rabbite and Cullen Kileen, we were outstanding the last quarter coming from 4 down against the wind and getting our noses infront, Rabbite was the decisive factor in ET, himself and Niland are the real deal. Taught the ref was harsh on us at times but cognaisant I'm not looking with impartial eyes.

It's a tough one. Some lads seem to do it seamlessly. I'm thinking of the Dublin footballer Jack McCaffrey who did it a few times.

I suppose Michael Murphy. Lads that keep themselves very fit when away.

Joe Cooney came back around 2000 at 35 and was decent for the year and then retired. Fitness levels so different then.

Thanks Marrooned.

It's so obvious he was triggered by my posts. He tried to use the guise of a hurling related post but the thinly veiled sardonic barbs stood out. That post said a lot about him and I won't be replying to that condescending, school teacher type posting.

An attempt to establish his intellectual, sporting and life experience superiority over a poster. He'd never achieve that with me. He doesn't know me.

Manners and respect are no load, the older you get the more you should realise this.

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IMO all posters who are respectful are welcome. It's all about opinions.

Some posters here think you cant criticise a player or coaching staff member because they are giving up their time and giving 100%. IMO you can. If you put your hand up for a jersey or a coaching job in any county you are putting yourself in line for scrutiny. Now that criticism should be respectful.

As for Marrooned saying we are better off being beaten early in a way he is right. There are a lot of problems in KK hurling and they have been there for years. It's not one individuals fault but a collective. Winning Leinster and losing then in the semi will only paper over it. Of course we will all naturally be cheering in the team but losing might not be the worst scenario if it helps solve some of the route causes. I belive we lack a real personality/leader at CB level. Someone who has a vision and can implement it. On the playing side I believe we have the players but I think from a coaching POV we lack good coaches at all levels. This is not a go at people as they give 100% but we just lack good quality coaches. Are the coaches there. Probably are but for some reason can't give their time up.

As for your Sheik Neighbour and their 20m facility. It's well for some and I have a question regarding their great team. Do you think that Limerick team would have achieved what they did if they had the same budget as the Cody team that won 4 in a row and also came back and reclaimed the AI with a 2 in a row.

Is there not a Clare forum on Boards somewhere?

We are not all like that .. .. thankfully 😬

They would not have won what Cody's teams won on the budget Kilkenny had. That's my point. Cork, Limerick, Tipperary, Clare to an extent, realise that success in the modern era demands spending huge sums of money. Tradition, skill and determination is no longer enough, unfortunately. We are in a different age. If Huw Lawlor, an incomparable full back, was a Limerick player, the 'inducement' to remain hurling with his county would have insured he postponed his travel plans!

Galway are likely to wrap up their Leinster Final place this weekend so should have a full squad available for the U20 final next week. We will see what Kilkenny U20 are made of then. Hopefully we will have a few players who will graduate to the senior team

I thought someone said here that Nolan’s was out for a fortnight?

In an ideal world, I'd love to see an u20 sprung into the senior team out of nowhere. I know we often talk about patience with players and letting them find their feet but I think there's also a place to throw an u20 in who isn't confined to the system that the seniors are playing. Lacey might not be fully developed yet but he could add something different and unexpected to the team, similar to when we brought in Wally in 2012. If it doesn't work out the excuse is already made for him that he's too young and not ready. We've played it safe enough the last few years and maybe Lyng needs to just go all-in and take a few gambles.

At the moment I just feel a staleness to the team and it needs a shake up. We've seen Galway and Tipp bring in these young lads in the last two years and basically said it's sink or swim time and that's something we should consider.

Hopefully he'll get a good run

Great to see Harry Shine back and its an excellent oppurtunity to give him 50 mins. Mullen hopefully will get a 20mins from the bench and gently ease him back in. Such a pity about Molloy getting injured as we are now getting our best players just back in time.

Tommy Walsh a good bit away unfortunately.