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Eurovision Song Contest 2026

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,204 ✭✭✭✭Welsh Megaman


    Anywaaaay…

    Tonight’s menu.

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    Looking forward to seeing Australia and France. I assume Delta has opted for a mid-air rotating piano solo, a la Keith Emerson. 🙂

    But I’m especially looking forward to seeing our entry (the UK) in full for the first time. In all interviews, Sam seems like a nice guy - just as happy to tinker in his shed with his synths in a John Foxx/Vince Clarke stylee as well as being at ESC.

    Just thankful that he’s not some Andrew Lloyd Webber-connected horrorshow like last year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,376 ✭✭✭supereurope


    The answer is 2004.

    That's when everything changed. Up until then, the EBU was far more hands-off when the contest preparation and they pretty left the host broadcaster to it. Yes, they drew up the rules, visited the host city a few times in the months leading up to the contest and provided a voting scrutineer (those of us over 40 will remember Mr Naef), but really, they didn't go much further. Take for example, 1995, when the Irish entry was accused of plagiarism, the EBU stood back and allowed RTÉ to make the call if the song should be allowed compete. Despite the song very clearly being a copy of a 70s folk song called Moonlight, RTÉ cleared it. If something similar happened today, it would be the EBU that would make the decision.

    The early 2000s changed things. There were two contests in a row, 2002 and 2003, staged in former Soviet states, Estonia and Latvia. Both countries had small broadcasters, not much money and little experience staging major international events. To help them, other broadcasters stepped in, mainly SVT from Sweden. Estonia in 2002 did mostly fine, though it had a lot of money troubles. However, Latvia's preparations in 2003 were a disaster. When the EBU visited Riga in mid-March 2003, very little had been done. Everything was sorted in the end, of course, but the EBU I believe got quite a shock at how badly LTV was organising things. At the time, it was widely expected that smaller, less well-off Eastern European countries hosting would become a regular event, and they would all face similar challenges to Estonia and Latvia.

    So, from 2004, the EBU played a bigger role to ensure no repeat of 2003's chaotic planning. There was a new role created within the EBU, ESC Executive Supervisor, which not only replaced the scrutineer, but, according to the rules of the 2004 contest, had “direct responsibility for overseeing and guiding all aspects of the financial, organizational, and creative planning and execution of the Eurovision Song Contest.” There was also a bigger role for the Reference Group.

    The EBU also took greater oversight of the televoting system. Before 2004, participating broadcasters worked with their country's telecommunications firms to collect telephone and SMS votes. From the 2004 contest, the counting of televotes was centralised after the EBU appointed a pan-European voting partner.

    Perhaps most notably, in 2004, the description of the contest changed in the rules from the promotion of "high-quality original songs in the field of popular music, by encouraging competition among artists, songwriters and composers through the international comparison of their songs" to “a state-of-the-art, world-class television production of a competition between musical acts representing countries of the Members of the European Broadcasting Union (EBU).” The EBU was making it clear that the contest was now a television extravaganza first and a song contest second.

    The same year also saw the ban on live music put in place.

    Finally, of course, 2004 was the year the generic "heart" logo was introduced. The EBU was keen to establish the contest's "brand" and wanted something akin to the Olympic rings. Since then, we've only seen the EBU further replace individuality with consistency, like in 2008, when it introduced the glass microphone trophy, replacing the bespoke trophy designs of previous years.

    Sorry for that long post, but the point I'm trying to make is that everything that's perhaps wrong with the modern-day contest, from a production or staging perspective at least, can be traced back to 2004.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,006 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    The only thing I'm boycotting is the EBU for its tacit support for the terrorist state i.e. viewing the actual live shows, watching their content on social media etc. But otherwise I am still following the event as a news story and am generally aware of what is happening in the Contest (who are the favourites etc).

    On the point of the popularity of the songs and engagement with them, that will be very easy to track post-Eurovision in terms of sales / downloads, Spotify streams, YouTube views etc.

    I would suggest the Israel crisis is a lot more than a mere minor political controversy. Many established artists and composers would probably not want the attention of being involved in a Contest where they might be publicly linked with Israel or are opposed to their participation themselves on moral / ethical grounds. Biggest name artist on Tuesday was Boy George, a well known Zionist and supporter of Israel - ditto with Vicky Leandros.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 327 ✭✭tradfan1


    Thanks! Looking forward to Denmark in particular. Would really like Switzerland to qualify but borderline I would say.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,928 ✭✭✭archfi


    Great post

    The EBU was making it clear that the contest was now a television extravaganza first and a song contest second.

    I think this is the root cause of why it now feels jaded.

    "What does that even mean, vetting?"

    -Michael Martin



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,204 ✭✭✭✭Welsh Megaman


    Social media going crazy about how amazing Dara’s staging of ‘Bangaranga’ looks.

    Cat rave gifs at the ready!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,376 ✭✭✭supereurope


    Thank you. I had to cut it back quite a bit! But I think the point was made. Since 2004, much of the power has been taken away from the host broadcaster by the EBU.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,898 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    Much of the local flare has gone too. I loved the days when the broadcaster set the tone and image for the event. It gave an insight into the host country and a different logo and presentation style each year kept things fresh.

    It all feels a bit corporate now with the heart logo now being present on everything, even the Eurovision movie. Even that feels like a bit if a corporate video. Eurovision has a long and rich tradition but looking at that movie you’d think it all just started in 1998 apart from a nod to Celine Dion and, of course, ABBA. It now feels like the kind of show with a ten year memory and, after that, unless you’re highly notable, you’re glossed over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭Migdal_Or


    So your boycott consists of not watching the live shows, while still following the contest, tracking the favourites, monitoring the engagement metrics, discussing the artists, and posting lengthy commentary about Eurovision online. A devastating blow to the EBU, no doubt.

    I'll wish you well, and I'll leave you now to continue saving the world, or whatever it is you think you're doing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 115 ✭✭Famous Seamus


    Why the hell is Evelyn O'Rourke in Vienna? RTÉ rightly decided to boycott the contest so why send someone to report on it. She spent 5 minutes telling us nothing we already didn't know, trying to justify spending public money.



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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 99,467 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight




  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,233 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Predicted qualifiers tonight:

    Bulgaria, Romania, Czech Republic, Denmark, Australia, Ukraine, Albania, Norway, Cyprus and Malta.

    I'm reasonably confident of the first eight above. Slightly less confident about Cyprus, apparently she's been awful in rehearsals. I have the last spot as a fight between Malta, Armenia, Latvia and Luxembourg, but I think the juries will get Malta in. I got 9/10 for Tuesday's semi, let's see how this one goes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,204 ✭✭✭✭Welsh Megaman


    My predictions are the same, except I’d swap Norway out for Switzerland.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,006 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    I don't recall ever mentioning in the last six months in this thread I didn't intend watching this year's Contest, not even once and have never used the word 'boycott'. Have you mixed me up with a different poster?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,204 ✭✭✭✭Welsh Megaman


    LET’S GO!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,204 ✭✭✭✭Welsh Megaman


    Ok, my toes have uncurled now.

    We can begin. 🙂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,746 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    These semi finals really are more suited to BBC 3 standards, not BBC One.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,204 ✭✭✭✭Welsh Megaman


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,314 ✭✭✭corcaigh07


    Nice rack, that’s one qualifier surely



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,204 ✭✭✭✭Welsh Megaman


    Great performance from Bulgaria!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 244 ✭✭pnott


    I liked Bulgaria. The choreography was well done



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,491 ✭✭✭Dazler97


    I missed the 1st few songs YouTube live acting up



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,204 ✭✭✭✭Welsh Megaman


    Jiva getting harassed onstage by AJ of the Backstreet Boys.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,204 ✭✭✭✭Welsh Megaman


    ’Choke Me’ is definitely a grower.

    Well sung too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 967 ✭✭✭Amik


    Romania WOW! So glad they're back in the competition.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 244 ✭✭pnott


    Well Luxembourg was not great



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,204 ✭✭✭✭Welsh Megaman


    Always liked ‘Mother Nature’, but I get the feeling she could be going home.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,204 ✭✭✭✭Welsh Megaman


    Cross-roooooads!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,491 ✭✭✭Dazler97


    I loved Romania sports far I'm probably 2 songs behind everyone else



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