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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 4,596 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Reports Trump has halted the deployment of Tomahawk missiles in Germany to deter Russia.

    Lawsuit asking court to halt the painting the pool of the Lincoln Memorial blue.

    …A nonprofit dedicated to “promoting informed stewardship” of historic landscapes asked a federal judge on Monday to halt the Trump administration’s painting of the Lincoln Memorial’s Reflecting Pool, which has long featured a gray basin, blue.

    The lawsuit filed in federal court in Washington, DC, by The Cultural Landscape Foundation argues the project violates federal laws requiring the Interior Department to complete a consultation process that includes notifying the public of the plans and getting input from other federal agencies before beginning the work.

    ..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 316 ✭✭Roald Dahl


    I would say Trump will be presented with some gaudy trinkets and maybe allowed build a hotel or two, along with his crime syndicate family getting to seal some shady deals.

    That aside, Taiwan's days are likely numbered and the USA is about to get belt and roaded.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,930 ✭✭✭amacca


    He is consistent in the type he goes for isn't he.....I wonder if Ivanka moulded herself into the look to win daddys affection.......



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 33,852 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Because they own the club not cause they are a random US investment fund.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 4,596 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Alex Murdagh's murder convictions have been overturned and a new trial ordered. Featured in a Netflix documentary. However he will remain in prison for financial crimes. The Murdaugh family are traditional Republican bigwigs in South Carolina. He was convicted in 2023 of the murder of his wife and son.

    A documentary I saw also referred to speculation of a connection to the death of Stephen Smith though this is unproven.

    It seems his conviction was overturned on a technicality i.e. improper remarks by a clerk.

    Post edited by Ozymandius2011 on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Yeah, but there is going to be a new trial.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 99,197 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    6 PM Sunday October 23, 4004 BC, no matter what the heretics claim.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 4,596 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Former Acting FBI Director Brian Driscoll is on CNN now describing a purge of FBI agents that were involved in investigating Trump. Says Patel says 'you need to understand that the FBI tried to put the president in jail and he hasn't forgotten'. Driscoll is suing Patel and others for wrongful termination and retaliation.

    Edit: Former prison employee Noella Turnage who was working in Maxwells prison is describing Maxwells conditions on CNN now.

    Edit: Days before the primary, Rep Thomas Massie's ex girlfriend has accused him of offering her $5000 to not speak out about a firing by a party colleague. Cynthia West claims Massie got her a job in Rep Victoria Spartz's office. West claims that after said she would file a wrongful termination lawsuit against Spartz for 'fostering a toxic work environment', Massie offered her $5000, which she declined. Massie denying it.

    Cynthia West, a former congressional aide now running for school board in Florida, has alleged that Massie secured her a job in Congress, in the office of Republican Representative Victoria Spartz of Indiana, after the pair struck up a romantic relationship. However, West said Massie soon began engaging in behavior she “wasn’t comfortable” with, after which she ended the relationship.

    West said Massie offered her $5,000 after she said she would file a wrongful termination complaint against Spartz, who she said had fostered a toxic work environment. West said she declined this as well as a $60,000 settlement payment from the Office of Congressional Workplace Rights (OCWR), which would have required her to sign a nondisclosure agreement.

    “It’s sad that a week before this election people are making false and unsubstantiated allegations about me in an obvious attempt to influence the outcome of this election,” Massie said in a statement shared with Newsweek on Wednesday.

    Post edited by Ozymandius2011 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,798 ✭✭✭✭retalivity




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,849 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    Everything has to be the biggest with Trump…

    https://www.arabnews.com/node/2643516/world

    “You’re a great leader, sometimes people don’t like me saying it, but I say it anyway,” Trump responded. “There are those who say this may be the biggest summit ever,” he added.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,058 ✭✭✭✭threeball


    FDI is one thing. FDI beholden to one country or one administration is another. We're far too concentrated and like anything be it nature or business, an ecosystem with no diversity dies.

    We have opportunities of creating indigenous industry and creating an environment that's interesting to other nations like Japan, Korea and China looking for a foothold in Europe but we choose not to. Like everything in this country, we subcontract the future. Won't build our own houses, won't build our own infrastructure, won't even have competent consultants in house. Instead we subcontract everything to the private sector at inflated prices and accept substandard results. We've wasted 30years of incredible income in this country for a lack of willing to do anything ourselves. And that gravy train is coming to an end.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,460 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    Chinese are going to run rings around these amateurs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭bored65




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,570 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Responsible amateurs would be one thing.

    These are corrupt compromised amateurs who are too arrogant to even think they can get something wrong.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,553 ✭✭✭wassie


    “You’re a great leader, sometimes people don’t like me saying it, but I say it anyway,” Trump responded. “There are those who say this may be the biggest summit ever,” he added.

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    ….apparently



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,982 ✭✭✭yagan


    Remember how Trump used to pull people into him with his manacle handshake?

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    He looks pretty weak now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭StarryPlough01


    Some people believe Trump is the Second Coming. While others think he is the Antichrist - fulfilling the scriptures. ’In the wildest fiction you couldn’t make this s**t up.’

    In either case, you had better praise his holy name: Trump.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,335 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    The man knows how to tune into the American masses. Basically it’s WWF. I am the best, the greatest etc etc. Those who oppose me are losers. The American masses are not that complicated really. They like that.

    Which makes it all the more amusing why the Democrats have lost touch. Too intellectual, too vague. What is their message? I don’t know. But I know what Trump’s is. And I am not American, don’t live in America, nor do I really care what America does. But it is fascinating how a simple message repeated resonates with Americans enough, not only to win an election but to get the popular vote. And win two elections.

    I realise a lot of American politicians are just using Trump for their own ends JD Vance etc. But the Democrats and those in the Republican Party (who oppose Trump) were clueless on how to beat him.

    Post edited by gormdubhgorm on

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,553 ✭✭✭wassie


    But it is fascinating how a simple message repeated resonates with Americans enough, not only to win an election but to get the popular vote. And win two elections.

    I think its widely recognised that its not a simple message that got him elected. Trump is a clever politician and used a sophisticated form of political micro-targeting.

    By breaking the electorate into these smaller buckets he didn't need a single, unified message that everyone liked. He just needed to win one or two arguments with enough different groups to cross the finish line.

    They identified specific voter bases and understood their one or two biggest primary concerns. Then they went and told those bases exactly what they wanted to hear, regardless if it contradicted what he had told other groups. Only need to look at his messaging on Gaza and abortion during the various rallies he held.

    This was enough for these voters to ignore all the other BS and give him the vote.

    But as a lot of folk are finding out, "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes!"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,982 ✭✭✭yagan


    @gormdubhgorm

    When I lived and worked there decades ago around NY I knew lots who thought Trump was a blowhard, but also that they'd be glad to emulate him to get rich. He always projected a poor person's idea of a rich person. His Board of Peace is packed with poor countries who still think the USA is something to aspire to.

    Now he's grovelling in China where structural wealth is understood to be an absolutely essential for individual success.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,026 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    The EU will be wary if China and the US form closer ties. Their ability to pressure China over the genocide and ethnic cleansing of it's Uyghurs (ethnic Turks) population will wane. Basically China will have gotten away with it and the EU will be more likely to bend the knee and form stronger ties with the totalitarian communist regime.

    I'm on the verge of a site ban. Please don't rage bait me, I'm easily triggered especially late at night!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,649 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    You can't put 'clever' and 'Trump' in the same sentence! Cunning maybe, devious, fraudulent, lots of words, but don't imply intelligence. There may be intelligence behind him but he is the the front, when has he ever seen through something that worked? Getting elected maybe, but he did that with lies. I'd go more with the WWF analogy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,026 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story. These are the two most powerful men on the planet btw, whether we like it or not.

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    I'm on the verge of a site ban. Please don't rage bait me, I'm easily triggered especially late at night!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,943 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    100% this.

    He really was lightening in the bottle.

    He spoke to the anti-intellectualism crowd.

    He also had that celebrity factor which americans idolise. You see it in how the public react to famous people over there. How they treat their politicians is similar, but this allowed him to take it to another level.

    The fact that he wasn't a politician allowed him in 2015 to position himself as an outsider. (Apparently that doesn't matter now that he is serving a second term).

    His illusion of business success had a lot of influence.

    What also fed into his success is the state of the media. The 24 hour news cycle craves ratings, and he delivered. Michelle Wolff's famous quote springs to mind.

    He also exposed and monopolised the public's selfishness and indeed rascism.

    And finally, the two party system fed meant that you had to be in either camp, restricting choice.

    He was the perfect vessel for what became the MAGA movement. A blowhard, devoid of morals, where confidence replaced competence, "all fur and no knickers" one might say.

    The country is being fleeced by him and his cronies, and it speaks to how much of a cult he has nutured, that while he pockets millions and millions in plain sight, they will maintain that the family down the road, that doesn't look like them, shouldn't be treated in a hospital because America can't afford it.

    The truest words he has ever spoken, is that he could indeed shoot someone on Fifth Avenue, and his supporters would still vote for him.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,913 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Trump is a clever politician and used a sophisticated form of political micro-targeting

    There's nothing clever or sophisticated in what Trump has done. He isn't that smart.

    All he did was blow smoke up some dumb people's arses. Stupid people he understood would buy into his lies and deceit. Enough stupid people to possibly get him over the line.

    Anyone can do that if they are willing to lower themselves enough to lie and lie and lie again, which is exactly what he does.

    There's no cleverness or sophistication going on in that. It's just promising things to useful idiots that you can't deliver or have no interest in delivering, and when you have a blind following of that type that hate others so much that they're willing to overlook any of your wrongdoing, continually fooling them and using them is easy.

    Saying that that is clever or sophisticated is assigning a level of wit and intelligence that just isn't there.

    Post edited by Tony EH on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,460 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    Very Father Ted Great Bunch of Lads vibes



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,568 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Read an article earlier in the week and they made the point that China is thinking decades and more into the future when they make a move. Trump is only capable of thinking in terms of days and weeks ahead.

    They'll wave a few shiny baubles in his direction while they slowly steal the future of his country in the background.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,729 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880


    In every video of these meetings it's clear he's acting like a subordinate towards Xi. He's constantly praising him, telling him how strong and lovely he is etc.

    Meanwhile Xi doesn't return the favour at all. He focuses on telling the Americans that it's best to work together with China.

    To me it's quite clear who is acting like the top dog in these meetings (and also the adults in the room).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,913 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    It's funny though that there are still some people who feel the need to rush to defend Trump's honour when a perceived weakness is pointed out.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,780 ✭✭✭dePeatrick




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