Who are buying all the new houses?

Ok, so here's the thing- there is a very small amount of people going into trades. It's not in demand. We are 10 years behind encouraging people to get into manual labour again, that includes immigrants and Irish. Every country in the world is suffering from a low number of construction workers. The labour force is growing, but its growing at a faster rate than the rise of construction workers, so there is even more of a shortage as the population increases.

It will kill off the air and the other IT jobs. AI is already being seen to be very poor for almost everything it was supposed to be. It can do complicated and simple tasks, nut not medium tasks, as in a change of a few words, or use critical thinking. Unfortunately though, for the last 20 years, the schools, and the general public have been frowning upon manual labour. The generation that came from that, cannot even change a tyre on a car. They also do not want to. They do not want to get their hands dirty. We are 1o years, at least, away from getting enough people into the trades and then 5 years of training them, so we are 15 years away from an increase, by which time some other solution will have to have been found.

There is no more land being made, but the population is increasing, but that's a different issue that I cant see an easy way out of. The best years are behind us. I am in my late 40's, I've seen the best that the world has to offer, the generation prior to me had other difficulties, the ones after me have the current difficulties.

Construction is cyclical as we know. Don't want hoards of construction workers with nothing to do in ten years. Also it's hard work,in all weathers,not every kid fancies the job,those that do are free to get involved.

Bus drivers don't get visas. You need a qualification on the list of approved criteria.

They both need housing, but the point you made-a hospital worker from south america- I have met loads. I never said anyone was entitled to housing more than someone else. Please, whatever points you make, try and stick to them, Moving the goalposts to attack me is not helping you at all.

A clinical scientist is on a high wage, they should be able to bring in their family if they can afford to keep them without state help.

A cleaner, unfortunately will not make enough to bring in a large family including parents etc. The government has rightly changed these rules over the last 12 months. It happens at a difficult time for my wife and I as it means we can't do what we would have been able to do a few years ago, but, given the current housing crisis, it will at least stop the situation from getting worse than if they didn't implement new rules.

Sorry if my point came across in the wrong way. I'm not claiming that immigration isn't beneficial for critical services like health care. We should really be asking ourselves harder questions though, such as why can't we incentivize Irish citizens to stay at home and work in the healthcare system?

I was challenging the statement that the greatest inward migration volume is from returning Irish citizens, that point alone is misleading because more are emigrating than returning. So Irish citizens returning home doesn't have the impact on housing demand that the poster seemed to imply.

It was misleading to you because you jumped to your own incorrect conclusions.

https://www.reddit.com/r/IndiansinIreland/s/vbaIGAh9py

meanwhile over on Reddit

“ i mean it looks like the government are just building houses for indians to move here and buy them, but obviously its more complicated.

what are your thoughts and feelings on the matter? should irish people just have studied harder?

also is it mostly brahmins who are affording these nice houses??”

Not a caste system expert but I reckon it's the spectrum's higher end and they buy/rent their own houses. They'll get along fine just like the Eastern Europeans.

completely agree, financialisation is a train wreak in regards critical markets such as property, and simply causes hyper inflation, significant supply problems, and severe market dysfunctions!

Funny how you have to be tongue in cheek with that response. Very fitting that those most vocal about the housing crisis are the least willing to talk about the cause of it.

The problem, of course, is that housing is itself a bottleneck to population growth. Build more houses and this enables greater population growth which fills up those new houses.

In many respects it is a good thing that Ireland is seen as an attractive place to relocate to, but without some control on population growth - other than using lack of availability of housing itself as a control - we will continue to have housing shortages.