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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,849 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    Guarantee you the farmers he ruined with tariffs and his support to the Argentinian beef producers will still vote for him again and just blame Biden.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,557 ✭✭✭wassie


    At some point Trump voters will have to reconcile the BS with reality.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,787 ✭✭✭Lewis_Benson


    His voters think he is God, they will never change their mindset.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,421 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    You have got the wrong date range in that chart. The only date range that matters to MAGA voters is the peak price under Biden and the price now. Which is a clear reduction. Everything else is just noise.

    Sure, the gas prices are too high, and way higher than Trump promised and campaigned on, but look at what they were under Biden!



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 54,979 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Trump says the quiet part out loud:

    Doesn't care about normal Americans financial situation or anyone else.

    Which was always clear to everyone else except idiots.

    However he does care about Iran having nuclear weapons which he pretty much enabled by tearing up a perfectly good agreement and then gave them a very valid reason to have them with the recent attacks.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,557 ✭✭✭wassie


    Fair comment - the point I wanted to make (accepted I wasnt clear on this) was not the peak price, but that at some point fuel prices will feed into general inflation and the cost of living.

    When MAGA voters find that Trump has not only not delivered on their primary concerns and their bank accounts are being hit, they will have to reconcile their unwavering support.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,421 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    I was being flippant, but the core point stands. At no point will Trump voters even consider their support. The easy out is that, despite the rising fuel prices and the effect it will have on the cost of living, the simple argument is that it was worse under Biden, and therefore, Trump is right.

    The clearest example is the Iran War. Trump promised, and painted Harris as a warmonger, that he wouldn't enter into any more wars. The US hasn't been attacked, there was no imminent threat, yet Trump launched a war, and his supporters have no issue with that. They might be unhappy about it, but Harris would be way worse and Men in women's sports etc.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,099 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    They still won't change their mind. Too many of them are clearly deluded. They'll just find someone else to blame rather than their Dear Leader / God King.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,294 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    This is the correct answer. They'll grumble about fuel costs and inflation but they'll never seriously ask questions. It's been over 10 years. We know what these people are.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭bored65


    Cult members don’t usually question their leader no matter what

    At best the high prices will peel some “MAGA” adjacent people off, like the peado stuff already done with some

    But a core cult circle will remain with their anti Christ no matter what



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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 4,596 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Trump trying to oust Rep Thomas Massie in Kentucky primary. He has pushed for release of the Epstein Files and against wars for Israel. His challenger Gallrein is, according to Massie, funded 95% by the Israeli lobby.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,439 ✭✭✭mountain


    maybe the phones were sent to Israel to have explosives installed into them



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 431 ✭✭somenergy


    President and vice president musk arrive in China many tech bros in toe lots of insider trading on the way trump family about to coin in



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 431 ✭✭ISOP


    what a disgusting pig and disgrace to the office



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,705 ✭✭✭valoren


    Or claim (with no evidence of course) that it is a deep state Dumbocrat conspiracy started by Obama to covertly arm Iran with nukes and Trump is at war with them because of that and the cost of fuel and food is acceptable because only he can Save America. Question this and, sure, aren't you just part of the conspiracy/must be a Dumbocrat etc. No convincing such people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 431 ✭✭somenergy


    CEO invitation list to China was the crime family buying/selling op this week



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 4,596 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    South Carolina Senate has voted 24-17 against readjourning for a Special Legislative Session to further gerrymander the state.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 4,596 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    And the US dominance in our economy could export oligarchy to Ireland if we don't reduce our dependence on it. We saw in Drogheda United how a co chairperson who called on Ireland not to play Israel was removed. A US investment fund seems to have been involved in that.

    We had a taste of what oligarchy would be like in the Tribunal reports.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,294 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I didn't see that. The problem is that Ireland is almost uniquely dependent on FDI. It's one thing to advocate pivoting away from the US but quite another to find a replacement for such a sizeable component of the economy.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 4,596 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Irish indigenous companies have not been nudged enough to trade within the EU more.

    But its also true that within the EU there are de-facto barriers to entry still, especially for the professions. Professional Associations, when they control entry, remind me of the Medieval Guilds. Actually that is sort of how they got started. Many public services started off as private services by the guilds. Monarchs saw that by controlling the (mostly craft) guilds, they could increase their power over society. In the Late Roman Empire, the guilds (Collegia) were brought under state control and in some cases became hereditary. The guilds disappeared during the collapse of the Empire but started reappearing around the 11th century. In the French Revolution, the guilds were banned. Merchants resented their monopolies and the Crown used to reward supporters by granting them.

    I think Professional Associations should still have a role in training and setting, enforcing standards, but should not control entry and should not have the final say on disciplining their members due to a conflict of interest.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,294 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The problem with that idea is that building new markets in Europe is going to be quite difficult. Historically, it's always been easier in some respects to export to the Anglosphere given the shared language and emigrant/expat networks.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,664 ✭✭✭ilkhanid


    And even a lot of those who know he's not God are willing to forgive him because he's "doing God's work". "imperfect vessel" theology says that God uses flawed individuals to fulfill divine plans. Sex offences, bullying, idiocy, warmongering, lies, duplicity, incompetence..all is forgivable if you get rid of Roe/Wade.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,996 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    It's an impossibility in the short or medium term and anyone suggesting that we should actively discourage continued US investment in the country needs their heads examined.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,930 ✭✭✭amacca


    I think the farther it goes the less they will be able to admit any error on their part

    Some must already resonate with arrogance, pride, vanity, bullying etc.....it would be a mortal blow to the ego to admit any fault/mistake at this point....even in private....an assault on the very essence of their being

    Trump is probably the personification of what they admire and who they would like to grow up to be! One couldn't be admitting ones hero is a c u next Tuesday.......how much more pathetic would that make them

    I predict a lot of people that voted for him claiming publicly they didn't and would never as things move on.....while secretly thinking they were right to do it or coming up with some nonsense to help them sleep at night....the cohort that aren't fully brainwashed at least



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,562 ✭✭✭z80CPU
    Darth 8-bit


    Trumps "lower deck" operatives betray him. Get the popcorn.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,849 ✭✭✭Patrick2010




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    There will always be the hardcore 25% or so (coincidentally this number usually correlates with those who believe that the earth is 10,000 years old or that the rapture will happen in their lifetime), the rest will reflect internally deeply and practice the personal responsibility that is one of their core beliefs. Will they f***, it will be like Bush all over again after they went balls deep for the Iraq war.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,945 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Well, we were told by Karoline Leavitt that if it's a lost on Truth Social, Trump is the one posting it....

    Which means that's a lie and it's someone else.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,758 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    "Quiet piggy!" comes to mind there. Just so many…erm pig ignorant tantrums from him they become noise at this point and no longer registers really.



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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 46,151 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    So the IRS are considering settling his lawsuit against them, along with the IRS possinly not auditing the Trump family. Remind me, who is ultimately in charge of the IRS?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/12/business/trump-suit-irs.html

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