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Football Championship 2026 (Mod Note in OP)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,297 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    Tweaks are always possible at the next congress it's their duty to push for those tweaks first and foremost.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,418 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,464 ✭✭✭beggars_bush




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭Gael85


    Cork beat Kerry in u20s too but Kerry won the game that matters the Munster final a couple weeks later. Prob be in same final minor next week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,390 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    And they say in Cork that football is just for fellas that can’t hurl….
    I think it is funny that their football AI win was a lot more recent than their hurling AI win.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,022 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Corks population is growing but most of that is foreign nationals coming into the county who have no interest in GAA. Cork also has other sports besides GAA and more participate in other sports.

    Dublin have proven its very difficult to be good at both

    Not making excuses though as Cork should be more consistent in football but while population is a big help other factors come into play.

    County like Kerry have big financial backing. Plus 90% of their underage lads play football and football only. More games etc. Thats beats population really.

    Brian Hayes was playing Club football the week after the Hurling All Ireland. David Clifford does not have the same worries.

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,176 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    Surely that remains to be seen.

    If Kerry were to beat Donegal and then lose to Armagh and a week later face into the likes of a Roscommon or Mayo or Meath etc who would be coming off a win against a Kerry team coming off a loss after playing 2 of the best 3 teams in the country and they lose that, it would be hard to argue that it was of more benefit than getting into the QF.

    Again it remains to be seen but I think the R2A losers will be very vulnerable similar to when the provincial losers used to meet a back door qualifier a week later in the old system.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,913 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    I think Cork minors will beat Kerry again. Seemed a much better team. Kerry very young though. I think half the team are underage again next year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,913 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    Huge areas of Cork are football dominated. Hurling isn't an excuse.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,913 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    The majority of kids are Irish ethnicity and lots of foreign nationals play GAA also. Kids will just play what their friends in school play.

    In Kerry we've had lads of different ethnicities play at minor and U20. They haven't made it to senior county yet but it's only a matter of time.

    In a few years I bet we'll see minors from Ukraine lining out for counties.

    It's not much of an excuse.

    Cork should be consistently competitive at Gaelic Football, similar to a Tyrone or Mayo for example.

    Every county goes through cycles but they should always be competitive.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,913 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    I think Donegal will beat Kerry anyway. Too many players injured or not match fit. We'd have to be at our best to beat them. We could beat them later on in the summer if we get players back.

    I say that as a Kerry man. I think the extra game might stand to us though, before the 1/4s although obviously a potential banana skin also.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,022 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Majority but the sharp rise is not a ethnic increase like you are implying.

    Actually its a tiny % of foreign born players playing intercounty. We should be having much more for the population increase.(20% min)

    Look how little Poles make it yet been living here 20+ years. So im not sure your point has any weight when facts show otherwise.

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,913 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    When your county's population is over 600,000, I don't think kids from foreign nationals background is an adequate excuse.

    If the Cork county board did a review of why Cork aren't winning at hurling or football, I doubt that's what they'd come up with.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,022 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Your bit obsessed with the population.

    In that case likes of India, Pakistan, Nigeria and China should dominate every sport. But they dont.

    Should Cork be doing better? 1000%. Been failing in football and badly.

    But im sure you probably thought was only matter of time before we saw plenty of Eastern Europeans playing intercounty. And here we are.

    By your logic 10 lads from India should just be able to be better than David Clifford cause there is more of them.

    Just looking at population alone is very short sighted. Should it help yes of course Cork should have better players on average than a Leitrim or Monaghan.

    Most Kerry, Mayo and Meath players never picked up a hurley in their life. It helps like when ya can concentrate on one sport. Not like that in certain other counties.

    I will leave it at that.

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,913 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    Obviously lots of other factors like actual playing numbers, coaching, tradition, culture, facilities etc but Cork have all those factors on top of large population.

    So it's not analogous to China or India.

    I'm just saying they should be consistently competitive but with cycles like other counties do.

    They had a very strong football team in the late 80s/early 90s and also for most of the 2000s, so they're due another cycle of success.

    They beat Kerry at u20 and minor this year, so maybe it's coming.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,770 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    A big factor will be Michael Murphy getting sent off. After the League final many people here said that referees always even up a mistake, even one made by another referee. They are convinced that Murphy will be sent off. And it didn't need to be against Kerry again, he is going to get that treatment anyway. I heard pundits saying the same. A good bet with the bookies would be a red card for Murphy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,913 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    Well if he tackles with a closed fist, he should be sent off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,770 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    The discussion was that he is going to be sent off for no reason.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,022 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Ya Cork football has been brutal for 13 or so years.

    No excuses for how bad it is in that regard.

    Kerry wont be losing a Munster for least a decade way things are going though. Especially when Cliffords will be about.

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,912 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    Calling BS on this one.

    Sure haven't Kerry a 'German' lad playing for them



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,176 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    I think that is nonsense (I know you are passing on an opinion). Refs aren't that into evening up scores between matches and no ref is going to torpedo (or at the very least hamper his career) with a sending off for no reason.

    I certainly believe there will be very little tolerance for his trademark punch tackle however and he could find himself sent off even for just the normal punch to the ribs that he does, not to mind head high pucks and that would be a good thing - those punches to the ribs are filthy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,913 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    You're supposed to tackle with an open hand.

    A closed fist tackle can be a red.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,770 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Any contact hand to body is illegal. The tackle with the hand is on the ball, not the opponent.

    Football: The tackle is a skill by which one or more players may dispossess an opponent or frustrate his objective within the Rules of Fair Play. A tackle is aimed at the ball, not the player. A tackler may use his body to confront the opponent but deliberate bodily contacts uch as punching, slapping, arm holding, pushing, tripping, jersey pulling or a full frontal charge is forbidden. The only deliberate physical contact allowed is that in the course of a Fair Charge one player only with at least one foot on the ground , makes a shoulder to shoulder charge on the player in possession.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 37,287 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    Hurling is, was and always will be the number 1 sport in Cork - hence the 'football is only for fellas that can't hurl' - clearly plenty of them in Kerry, amongst other counties. It will always play second fiddle to hurling in Cork. It's been too long since Liam came Leeside and every year makes it a bigger deal, such is the craving to win in hurling.

    We should have won more Sam Maguires though - but only 3 counties have won more. I fully expect Cork to be competitive again in football - a manager with a better tactical ability would help. Back in Division 1 will also boost the profile and hopefully be a step in the right direction.

    With population comes so many other factors, eg other competitive sports in the locality. We've lost a lot of players to Rugby/Soccer in particular. Dublin has the same problem but has twice the population of Cork, yet how many times have Liam stayed in the capital? When was the last time - nearly 90 years ago. At least the Cork footballers have a recent win but I think it's a fair belief to think Cork will welcome Liam home beofore Sam calls again.

    It's not Just a numbers game, that much is very clear.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,913 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    Ye have obviously a solid football team now but your forward play needs a bit of work.

    Too predictable and pedestrian.

    Maybe new management or bring in a modern coach.

    Roscommon have Jason Sherlock and look deadly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,434 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    Not a great watch so far



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,912 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    Tackilin a player in the air like that should be a yellow card, it's very dangerous. The player in the air is defenseless.

    Game is very slow paced,division 2 stuff



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 343 ✭✭Willie Power


    Westmeath giving away a lot of soft turnovers in the last 5 min.

    "He might be an eejit, but he's our eejit"
    Willie Power



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 13,965 Mod ✭✭✭✭Say Your Number


    No it's not the greatest half of football ever, but it's not that long ago Leinster finals were uncompetitive farces.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭French Toast


    No real urgency on either side, Dublin barely ticking over. Feels like a training game.



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