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Stephen's Green Centre redevelopment

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,831 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Fair amount of rose tinted there. Our streets always looked like your average British high street. Nothing about Dublin or any Irish city was every especially unique.

    Also you have chosen the most commercial streets in the city which every city even the cities on the continent those foreigners come from have them. Paris, Madrid, London and all the others.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,857 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,512 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    I've been going since I was a child and use the dunnes regularly enough still. I have a soft spot for it somewhat but the inside is a disaster and not commercially viable. The new design is so ugly though on the exterior. I don't know why we can't put a front on it in a classical style like how the Shelbourne hotel looks or along those lines, I guess it's down to cost and the developers won't pay for fancy exteriors. Pic below is from Warsaw, I really wish we did this kind of thing instead of bland buildings being built all over the city centre. I'm guessing Warsaw has rules in that you have to keep to a certain standard that will enrich the city aesthetically.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,004 ✭✭✭Nermal


    It's routinely used as a pejorative to describe any attempt to build in traditional style.

    I've seen the new proposal described as 'bland' in this thread but it's much worse, it's sickeningly ugly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,819 ✭✭✭timmyntc




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,555 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    Then they are using it wrong so. It's often in Architecture seen as homage to something. And indeed the original architect was trying to copy something, and it kinda works on the inside for light and space. Just not commercially.

    Don't think anyone likes the new one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,244 ✭✭✭growleaves


    The style of the area is not Georgian only. St. Stephen's Green park in its current form was re-designed in 1880. It is a classic Victorian park with a few Edwardian augments put in later like the Fusilier's Arch entrance.

    Grafton Street is Georgian but with later Victorian and Edwardian additions in there too.

    The Shelbourne Hotel a bit down the road was built in 1824. Victorian.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,555 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    The current center has none of those styles or any of the proportions that characterised those styles.

    The Shelbourne is 3 Georgian houses converted to a hotel with Victorian bits added.

    Stephens green was redesigned as a Victorian park. But it is located in a Georgian garden square.

    Does it really matter.

    When the center was built people were mostly happy it was something new. Obviously popular with a lot of people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    wow- it cost £50 million in 1988- that was a huge investment for the time. I don’t think it’s been that successful, maybe parts of it like Dunnes stores and the car park have been but the core shopping Centre I wouldn’t think so



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Always seems to be lots of poor quality or empty units for a place off Grafton Street doesn’t seem like success to me



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