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Manchester United Thread 25/26 - Teamtalk/Transfers/Gossip Mod Note in OP 12.02.26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,752 ✭✭✭✭billyhead


    Its a case of you will be damned if you do snd damned if you don't appoint Carrick. If an alternative manager is appointed and things go South, Ineos willbe criticised by fans and vice versa with Carrick.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,821 ✭✭✭Charlie69


    Maybe that will be another factor when it comes to the decision to appoint Carrick or not . As you say whoever is manager next year will have to oversee an awful lot of squad transition…. Maybe changing the manager again on top of all that would be too much disruption at the same time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭kyleman


    I genuinely don’t think Carrick has earned the right to be given the job.

    Too many red flags to be given it outright but at the end of the day results have exceeded expectations and performances .

    By finishing 3rd he should fully expect to be involved in the interview process and if Ineos deem him the best candidate they may give him a decent contract and buy players to back him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭jayo44


    Playing a system that didn't suit the players isnt sustainable.

    Changing manager to manager on a punt because you think they play a nice style isnt sustainable.

    A manager adapting style to suit the weaknesses in his squad is sustainable. Give him players over summer fill in some of the gaps and go from there. I donno if Carrick can win league or not but I'm fully convinced he can steady the club for at least another season at a minimum while we improve the squad.

    He deserves more respect from some online united fans for what he has dien for the club this season.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,926 ✭✭✭ericzeking


    If you do a series of interviews including the incumbant and then end up sticking with the incumbant then that totally undermines his position. We saw this with EtH. It's farcical carry on. You're basically saying that we'll just settle for that.

    You either give it to Carrick now without any faff and say, this guy has done a good job and is our guy for the foreseeable.

    Or you let him go after the last game and hire someone different in a completely separate process.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,388 ✭✭✭green daries


    Ya 💯 you cannot fo outside interviews and then appoint Carrick. Its hes appointed or interviews without him



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,007 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    What other potential candidate has earned the right to be given the job?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Hodors Appletart


    The only manager these people would be happy with would be someone like Enrique, who in no way shape or form would be looking to come to United at this point in either their own cycle, or the club's

    What United currently need is "the man before the man", and that can be Carrick.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭kyleman




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭scottser


    I'd agree with that. I reckon the job is Carrick's despite his lack of experience if only to provide some kind of stability. There's also the problem of a lack of suitable candidates for the job and we don't appear to be expressing interest in anyone else.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,987 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    Unless there's an outstanding candidate available to start in June (which rules out anyone coaching/managing at the World Cup), then continuity is the least worst option.

    Brining in a manger who can only start in the 2nd half of July means a compromised recruitment period and a compromised pre-season. If there's a poor start to next season (which is more likely if a manager is late arriving) then the "should have stuck with Carrick" noise emerges very quickly and it's back into another doom-spiral.

    Being brutally honest about it, if in 12 month's time there's a need to move on from Carrick, he won't be expensive to get rid of. And it would be a better summer to be sounding out managers with no major international tournament.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,782 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels


    We're going to be back where we started next season, Amad and Mbeumo have regressed under him, Bruno and Lammens have bailed us out many times. We've looked dodgy most of the time and utterly shocking against Leeds, Newcastle, West Ham and Sunderland.

    He has my respect, he's done better than expected but we need a Prem proven manager who enhances players like Iraola or Emery.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,007 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    The guy currently in the job is the best option currently on the table then.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,893 ✭✭✭El Gato De Negocios


    Emery I'd be happy with but I simply dont see him leaving Villa. Iraola could just as easily be another Potter, Frank or any other on the list of managers that have done well at small clubs where there are no significant expectations other than not get relegated but that utterly failed on making the step up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭jayo44


    Amad pretty much only ever played well under amorim and wing back I stand by that it suited him well, Mbeumo was bought to play in a narrow front 3 system I'd say both of them are exactly why we shouldn't be going from one system to another with managers.

    Casimero is doing well under Carrick unfortunately his future had been decided, Mainoo is doing well, Lammens is doing well, heaven is doing well, sesko is doing well, dorgu was doing well before his injury, Bruno is doing well......

    Is it perfect? Nope but it's a hell of alot better than where we have been at in the past few years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,101 ✭✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    Emery would be my first choice if he could be got.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,028 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    This.

    No matter who comes in or stays in will need to get a squad together

    Thats my biggest fear is that we be in same lack of depth we have been for a while.

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,926 ✭✭✭ericzeking


    I don't think the tactico coach type moving cones around the training pitch is what we need, we saw EtH and RA get chewed up by the media circus.

    Rightly or wrongly it's a very important part of the United job. Carrick has been doing so well at managing the circus, the media get nothing from him. He's a great fit in that sense but with good coaches around him.

    Think Zidane at Madrid, had the respect of the players, managed the players but did little enough coaching seemingly.

    You'd imagine if he got it full time and with more games he'd bring in a couple more behind the scenes and obviously it sounds like Holland is key to keep on too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,821 ✭✭✭Charlie69


    That's very true about Andoni Iraola but I think he has a higher ceiling than either Frank or Potter. Apart from his three very very good seasons in the Premier League, he also done an incredible job at Rayo Vallecano for three seasons getting them promoted in his first season and going on to transform them from a struggling side into a top tier competitor. he had several wins over the likes of Barcelona and Real Madrid and achieved consecutive finishes in the table pushing for European places.

    He has had three great seasons with Bournemouth, improving them every year while continually losing his best players without a word of complaint. He definitely hasn't managed a big club and I agree there's all sorts of pressures and expectations at the likes of a Manchester United that makes managing them a completely different proposition. As I said I just have a strong feeling that this guy has what it takes to make the step up and one of the big clubs in England or Spain will be his next job I feel.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,893 ✭✭✭El Gato De Negocios


    I thought i had read that he was heading to Palace? If true, its a sideways step but objectively a backwards one. Of course there could be behind the scenes issues we arent privy to that are making the decision.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,101 ✭✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    There was a report earlier this month that the club are keeping tabs on Aaron Danks who was his assistant at Boro. Currently working with Kompnay at Bayern.

    One thing he gets high praise for is his set pieces. Meant to be **** hot at improving teams attacking set pieces.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,782 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels


    Casemiro, Heaven, Lammens and Bruno were all playing well before Carrick.

    Mainoo would be Mainoo with any manager who plays 3 in midfield.

    Not sure on Seskos stats before Carrick so can't comment.

    Dorgu I was calling to be played more forward before Amorim got sacked as he has been good there for Denmark.

    Carrick hasn't made these players do better they are just in more natural positions.

    If you're happy with the dodgy performances, silly subs and wrong team selections at times well all power to you, I stuck my head in the sand for ETH and Amorim saying the same thing everyone is saying about Carrick "he just needs players".

    Mark my words if he stays it will be a disaster ask any Middlesbrough fan, they are already saying they see the same patterns.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49,513 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    I don't think it is the same at all, and I think the conclusion would be different.

    We interview other candidates when ETH was heere because we had already decided he wasn't good enough - we coudn't convince the ones we wanted, and didn't want to take a punt on someone like McKenna - so were were stuck with Erik. It was very clear the people at the club didn't like or rate ETH and being stuck with him at the end was an absolute embarrassment.

    Its just not the same with Carrick.

    Carrick was hired on a short term contract specifically so we could go through a process to find the right, next, guy.

    Approaching other managers is simply the thing you said you were going to do, months ago. Its conducting a process for a position that does not have anyone contractually tied to beyond the end of May.

    If you conduct a proper process and you hire Carrick you can claim (at the least) that he was the most impresive of the people available/interested.

    If you don't conduct a process and you hire Carrick you have immediately not conducted the proper process you said you would, you've not found out if he is actually the best option - you have simply stuck with the guy that was getting results.

    I think you look far weaker hiring Carrick without doing a proper process to find the best person for the job.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭jayo44


    Big bad board looking at results and hiring a manager because he only lost two games and won 10 put of 15. Shocking.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,408 ✭✭✭✭FourFourRED


    If Alonso is open to Chelsea, United must have at least enquired about him. Maybe he has no interest because of the Liverpool connection, and wants to keep that door open.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,752 ✭✭✭✭billyhead


    Carricks certainly not a manager to win the PL or CL but to maintain stability.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,782 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels


    Well we better hope Liverpool, Villa and Chelsea all have the same seasons again.

    We need to kick on and Carrick won't be doing that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49,513 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Why does him being open to Chelsea mean United must have checked?

    We're being very clearly told United have spoken to no one and have approached no one.

    So I'd just take it on face that we have made zero attempt to hire Alonso, or see what an Alonso United would be.

    Cause god forbid we upset the interim manager.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49,513 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Would you be happy if our starting back 4 next season, first choice, was Mazraoui, Maguire, Lisandro and Shaw?

    They conceded 0 goals vs Sunderland last game, so they must be good, right?

    Would you be happy if we just gave Casemiro a new contract, and signed no new midfielders? We got CL football with Mainoo and Casemiro - so clearly that is good enough to get top 3? Since the start of January they have 10 wins in 15 - why consider changing?

    Results is all that matters, so just stick with the same manager and same players who got those results, right?

    No one should concern themselves with the style of football, the quality of our defending, the fitness of the team, the pressing from the front - cause even if it is maybe a little worrying, and maybe a little like his 'Boro side, its 10 wins in 15 so give him the damn contract.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,723 ✭✭✭FrankN1


    I hope it works out but we literally did he exact same thing with Ole and it didn't turn out very well...

    Except Ole had even better results and likely we scored more on his initial large run of wins.



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