Kilkenny GAA Thread

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Enjoyed our chat

Let’s hope things improve for Kilkenny

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Very important to be positive

Loads to be positive about

Clearcut wide on TV. Umpire in front of it reacted immediately with right decision. Murphy motioned it wide as well straight away.
Awarding a 65 after that was absolutely inexplicable.

No we can't, we should have won despite the ref, but when a ridiculous decision like that literally is the difference between winning and drawing, you couldn't expect it to be not called out. Ball was clearly wide and he managed to inexplicably manufacture a 65 out of it.

You're right on the running at us. At times in 2nd half it looked like they had an extra man. We always seem to struggle with that.

I don't know the free count but I'd be amazed if it wasn't heavily in Offalys favour. I do know we were awarded a total of 4 frees in Offalys half, 2 of which TJ missed. On the other hand Murphy couldn't wait to whistle against the Kilkenny backs, including twice when the ball wasn't in there.

Look we still had enough chances to win by 10 including 3 clear goals and 16 wides, (some awful) so we were certainly architects of our own downfall, but it is very disheartening when soft free after soft free is given against you while similar offences are being completely ignored at the far end.

3 minutes were up after the free as well and he allowed the puckout and a sideline. Incidentally what a silly mistake by Richie Reid for the last sideline. It was the opposite side to us but it looked like a very poor error.

We need to deliver the ball longer far more often. It's been a failing this year in a big way.

ye Chaz we were near Richie Reid a dreadful mistake which ultimately cost us the match. But in the first twenty minutes we never pushed up on Offaly and gave them free reign to do as they pleased , they did seem to get a lot of home town desisions but we did a lot of stupid fouling Jordan Molloy especially. Charlie Mitchell is another good one he was at Mikey Butler from the start and he also struck Eoin Murphy at the end of the match again it was ignored.

I don’t think we’re blaming the ref per se It’s a discussion forum and his name stood out. I think we all know we were the architects of our own downfall.but his favouritism was plain to be seen he pulled us for simple things while he let there misdemeanours go if. Now Krazy if you’re happy with that standard of referring that’s fine but I’m not refs are supposed to be impartial if there not they should be called out we all know it’s not going to impact the result. On the 65 he drove up with another man from Limerick yesterday, a man he trusts to do a job who was in the best position yesterday and changed his position based on what?

as frustrating as decisions might be and Johnny Murphy is a clear cut w!nker and hated in every county, Kilkenny should never be worried about refereeing decisions in Leinster Championship against Offaly. The few frees we got we missed anyway

I’d imagine Mikey Butler was completely innocent and didn’t wrestle Mitchell to the ground or pull his helmet off? Mitchell didn’t strike Murphy, Murphy broke a hurl off him. Try have some bit of impartiality

not from where I was standing he busted Murphy’s head off the post.

Refs and umpires are there to have unbiased judgement and do have a serious impact on ensuring a fair outcome to games.

Players can do their best, make mistakes but we must always remember they are amateurs at the end of the day give their time and energy for our enjoyment and we show our appreciation for their efforts by showing up and supporting them whether they win lose, or draw, shake hands and wish the winners good luck.

Charlie Mitchell done Adrian Mullen last yea.

I feel like I’m saying the same things after all our games and I apologise in advance for that but it’s getting harder and harder to see what exactly our team are trying to do in these games.

Once again they looked like a team with no real game plan, no structure and very little evidence of good coaching. Is it the quality of the coaching itself or is it that this management team simply aren’t getting buy-in from the players ? I don’t know but I said after the Galway game that something doesn’t look right in the camp and yesterday only reinforced that feeling to be honest.

I want to be clear that this isn’t about taking anything away from Offaly because I’m a huge fan of this young Offaly team. They play a lovely brand of the modern game mixed with a more direct style that makes them good to watch. On the balance of play yesterday they probably deserved to win the game.

That said I have to mention Johnny Murphy’s performance because I thought he was very poor for both teams yesterday. He definitely refereed the KK backs far stricter than Offalys backs, the free count of 16 to 8 tells its own story and felt hugely disproportionate over the course of the game. I think the Offaly chap scored twelve or thirteen points from placed balls in a game where KK lacked a lot of things but I wouldn’t have said discipline was one of them.

I really don’t want this to come across as sour grapes because this is not about Offaly or their players at all but consistency was badly lacking from Johnny yesterday. I couldn’t see what happened at the time and maybe it was a 65 but Murphys decision to overturn the umpires call to award it seemed to be based entirely on the protests of the Offaly players and that only added to the frustration.

I’m honestly not sure where we go from here lads, we badly need lads like Adrian Mullen back from injury and a return to form for John Donnelly, Eoin Cody and a few others but we need a massive improvement in intensity, work rate, organisation and a boost in confidence. At the moment though it’s hard to be optimistic about where things are going for this team and management.

He Is Also the reason ballyhale lost mullen

Few of ye need to calm down for your own sake, seen someone posting after midnight then before 6am, unless you're up during the night with kids that isn't good.