Public Pay Talks - see mod warning post 4293

pc7 · 29-04-2026 09:11AM

Harris spouting on Claire Byrne about new pay deal talks, pity they wouldn't sort those waiting on the 1% local bargaining.

Ahshurlookit · 05-05-2026 08:12PM

https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2026/05/04/unions-may-seek-hefty-increases-in-looming-pay-talks-as-spending-pressures-mount/

Talks to get underway on a new deal in the coming weeks apparently.

TikTak22 · 05-05-2026 08:19PM

Hefty increases would be a nice change.

gerdywerdy · 06-05-2026 10:01AM

i think a deal similiar to last one would be good. Over the course of the agreement it all added up. Be nice to get the next round of collective bargaining sorted too

Thinkpots · 06-05-2026 10:23AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124447423#Comment_124447423

If you are getting 1% here and there it's just eroded by yearly inflation. You end up being worse off. The last deal was not very good to majority bar the few new entrants who got a skip

RedDevil55 · 06-05-2026 10:44AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124447472#Comment_124447472

The purpose of these pay deals isn't to increase your disposable income / standard of living. That's what yearly increments and promotions are for.

The pay deal combined with adjustments to income tax bands in the budget should maintain your living standards in line with inflation.

I'm a public sector employee so obviously would like as big a wage increase as possible but need to be realistic..

pc7 · 06-05-2026 11:40AM

HOpefully those of us waiting on local bargaining for 1% hear soon

Hotblack Desiato · 06-05-2026 01:46PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124447536#Comment_124447536

You may have noticed there were no tax band adjustments in the last budget! BTW increasing tax bands in line with inflation isn't a tax cut, it's keeping tax the same… so what happened this time was that PAYE tax went UP in effect.

Nobody is expecting these pay deals to increase standard of living, what they expect and rightfully so is that the deals will keep up with the cost of living and prevent living standards from being eroded. But successive deals are failing to do this.

Not everyone gets increments and not everyone can be promoted. That's a cop-out.

Realistic? The income of the government in taxes rises in line with inflation, they can damn well afford to give their workers a proper pay deal. And any increase they do give, they get 52% of it straight back… no other employer can say that.

RedDevil55 · 06-05-2026 04:39PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124448026#Comment_124448026

Nobody is expecting the pay deals to increase standards of living, yet the original comment I replied to complained about the pay deal being eroded by inflation. That will always be the case.

There were no adjustments in the most recent budget but the previous budget had a decent one.. my net pay increased by approx 2.5% between Dec 24 and Jan 25. When you add that to the pay deal it's ~11.5% over the two and a half years (excluding local bargaining) or 4.6% per year. Inflation has been under 3% for the duration of the deal.

chipfox · 06-05-2026 05:06PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124447710#Comment_124447710

I talked with FÓRSA and they said the DPER were being dicks about what grade was translated to what, or arguing about the wording of various things. They said they expect it by the end of June, but they also said they expected it by March too.

TikTak22 · 06-05-2026 05:41PM

14% over 3 years is a minimum requirement.

pc7 · 07-05-2026 08:53AM

Thanks Chipfox, good to know its still being worked on, radio silence from our union

Hotblack Desiato · 07-05-2026 05:24PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124448493#Comment_124448493

It shouldn't be, because a union which repeatedly signs up to pay deals which in the end fail to keep up with inflation is failing to justify its existence. There is no point going through all this hoo-ha over deals which in reality amount to pay cuts in the end.

Why does the government as an employer get to lump in tax "cuts" (not really cuts, when looked at over the whole election cycle, as we found out last year) to get it off the hook on pay? Should the private sector be able to get away with that as well? Tax adjustments apply to all workers equally.

Everyone even the government acknowledges we have a cost of living crisis since 2022, that does not correlate with inflation of under 3%, CBA checking official sources right now but I suspect there's something not right there

chipfox · 11-05-2026 09:57AM

I was also told that the 2% of the remaining local bargaining agreement is going to be rolled into the next agreement…

bren2001 · 11-05-2026 10:38AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124459694#Comment_124459694

See the "What is the local bargaining clause?". 3% was agreed in the last deal: 1% in the 2024-2026 deal and 2% in the next deal.

I assume grades/sectors that have already negotiated the 1% have negotiated the 2% at the same time and new claims won't have to be submitted? Or is that too sensible?

https://www.forsa.ie/faqs-public-sector-pay-agreement/

chipfox · 11-05-2026 11:05AM

No idea Bren, just relaying what a FÓRSA industrial officer told me. The claim is described as "two parted" where 1% is paid out/agreed under the 2024-2026 agreement where the remainder of the balance is to be paid out in a "successor agreement".

Everyone should get onto the respective unions to see what they say…

CramCycle · 16-05-2026 07:23PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124447536#Comment_124447536

The last one didn't even come close to covering inflation.

gandalfio · 29-05-2026 04:00PM

Any update on September 2025's local bargaining for HSE staff?

Thinkpots · 02-06-2026 07:40PM

Is point 11 on CO scale now gone. I was due a skip as per circular that issued in February. Any confirmation about the local barganing being backdated to September 25? Have the union said anything they were the ones saying the agreed this but never got implmentented its is now now June 26. what is going on does anybody know? No updated from NSSO nothing from union about this. A FAQ document accompanied the circular…is this still valid ?

Jerry Atrick · 03-06-2026 03:58PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124473882#Comment_124473882

Bankrupt the country, would you be happy then? Public sector employment never been as well paid and yet all unions do is whinge. Nobody is matching salary increases against inflation. Cuckoo land idea.

Geuze · 03-06-2026 04:21PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124521491#Comment_124521491

Real wages in the public sector are literally falling, and yet you say PS have never been as well paid!!!

GNWoodd · 03-06-2026 06:02PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124521491#Comment_124521491

So the salary of any tradesperson hasn’t increased in line with inflation during the lifetime of the expiring PS deal ?

Pat734 · 03-06-2026 06:12PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124521851#Comment_124521851

There are plenty of tradespeople working in the public service

CramCycle · 03-06-2026 06:17PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124521491#Comment_124521491

Do you even read what you reply too. I was replying to a poster that stated:

The pay deal combined with adjustments to income tax bands in the budget should maintain your living standards in line with inflation.

I was merely pointing out that this was not the case in the last pay deal and this was not even close to what was achieved.

As for bankrupting the country, nonsense talk. There could be several ways to achieve keeping up close to inflation, without either a. bankrupting the country or b. causing major issues.

CramCycle · 03-06-2026 06:47PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124521561#Comment_124521561

They won't get it, but one last time for the back of the class, if the value of a euro keeps decreasing in regards it's purchasing power for typical day to day items (groceries, utilities, mortgage/rent) then you are effectively earning less. PS/CS wages are continually shown to be below the value of the private sector ( I wait for the why not go private, well there are loads of reasons, happy to spout them again if required). If wages don't at least try to keep up with inflation when possible, the PS/CS bill would increase astonishingly quick as a lot would have to be tendered out. So, ironically if pay increases don't come at least come close to inflation when possible, eventually, not immediately, it will actually likely bankrupt the country.

GNWoodd · 03-06-2026 07:56PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124521879#Comment_124521879

So if I want someone to repair my roof I should contact the PS ?
And I will get him or her at a cost of only a small few per cent more than at the start of the PS agreement ?

Pat734 · 03-06-2026 10:41PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124522105#Comment_124522105

What a silly comment. Tradespeople work in the HSE, the Dept of Education, Office of Public works and many other departments throughout the country. Maybe some of them do some private work after their day job.

Jerry Atrick · 03-06-2026 11:31PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124521954#Comment_124521954

I didn't realise inflation only affected public sector employees...my bad

CramCycle · 04-06-2026 12:14AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124522615#Comment_124522615

Nonsense point and you know it, if you cannot discuss the point, why post. Minimum wage has increased year on year as cost of living rises, in most salaried jobs your wages do go up annually, even during the recession my wages went up in the private sector, not by as much but there were increases. Almost all businesses with long term employees will have year on year increases, that vary with economic conditions but rarely just flatline.

pc7 · 04-06-2026 09:26AM

Hard believe its June and so many groups haven't received the local bargaining piece and the deal ends this month! They shouldn't include parts like this again in future deals.

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