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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 4,610 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    As part of Trumps drive to abolish the Department of Education, student loans are being transferred to the Treasury.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 33,865 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    States run elections and several of the swing states were controlled by Democrats. Not to mention the Federal Govt. And yet not a soul in power questioned a thing.

    Election interference in '24 deserves as much as credence as election interference in '20



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,139 ✭✭✭✭Deja Boo


    I haven't read through the thread, just very concerned that Trump suggested he would remain in office for another 8-9 years, even though he has already ran for President the twice allowable under the U.S.Constitution. Some say it was a joke, but I don't think he ever intends to relinquish the presidency. He has mentioned before, that if they don't let him run again, he will run as Vice President, then take over from there.

    These current Judicial nominees "non-answers" about an illegal third term are enlightening.

    Do you think this is possible? :(

    Post edited by Deja Boo on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,893 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Everything is possible if you have a Supreme Court ruling in your favour.

    It's exactly how democracies turn into dictatorships.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 929 ✭✭✭midlander12


    Actually they've already gone to town on Starmer over some glasses he got from somewhere, and of course those Arsenal tickets. And then he once had a pint and a curry once during the lockdown.

    I wouldn't worry about the Mail, but it's not just them that have largely ignored the story.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 929 ✭✭✭midlander12


    Yes I think the GOP being kicked out is still a possibility, the gutting of the Voting Rights Act notwithstanding. If they get back in 2028, it's all over I think.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,844 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    So I did some digging on that about a thousand pages back, and his argument seems to be undermined by what actually happened. For his argument to work, he would have to explain how Democrats managed to win the state-wide senate votes whilst the voter suppression of democrats was taking effect which allowed Trump to win their state-wide EC votes. Surely if Democrat voters were suppressed, they would not have been able to win those state elections. The only explanation is either that a number of voters who were happy to vote for the Democrat candidate for Senator did not want to vote for the Democrat candidate for President, or that a number of voters who were happy to vote for the Republican candidate for President did not want to vote for the Republican candidate for Senate. Either way, the “voter suppression changed the election” argument has to take this dichotomy into account.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 4,610 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    A candidate supported by the Democrats has won a historically Republican city in a Texas mayoral election. This city has not had a liberal mayor for decades. Officially, the city has non partisan mayoral elections, but the government from 1993-2020 (who retired aged 95), Tom Reid, was openly conservative.

    The demographics of Pearland are 42% White, 24.5% Hispanic, 19.9% Black.

    Democrats win another seat on the Wisconsin Supreme Court in election. Increases their majority on it. The majority there is now safe until 2030. Could matter in court cases about midterm elections.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,664 ✭✭✭ilkhanid


    There's an obstacle in the form of the 12th amendment which states…" no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of president shall be eligible to that of vice-president of the United States".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,642 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    I think that is more evidence towards support for the idea that there was malfeasance afoot with respect to voting tabulation. In NC for example, Democrats swept the main state level executive offices, to include Gov, Lt Gov and AG. Yet despite this clear trend, Harris got 2,715,375 votes, while Stein got 3,069,496 votes to win the Governorship. She got less votes than Jeff Jackson for AG, and Mo Green for Superintendent of Public Instruction, among others.

    She was a late candidate, and not necessarily the most popular pick, but I just don't hold with the idea that voters who are motivated enough to turn out to sweep down ticket races like Superintendent for Public Instruction, aren't going to also vote for Harris over Trump. With Trump and Musk's comments regarding voting machines, and statistically unlikely swings in voting trends, I find it extremely hard to not think the Republicans cheated, as they look to do so again for Nov.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,784 ✭✭✭dePeatrick


    According to unofficial results from Saturday’s election, Wiltz beat city council member Tony Carbone by receiving 51.1% of the more than 11,700 votes cast — a margin of 263 votes in an election with about 13% turnout among registered voters.

    13% turnout?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭JohnDoe2025


    Some of the former communist countries had a paper trail that meant they could identify who every citizen voted for. They also had a tendency towards 99% of votes going to one candidate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,381 ✭✭✭bog master


    https://www.thedailybeast.com/republicans-make-jaw-dropping-1b-demand-for-donald-trumps-ballroom/

    Republicans Make Jaw-Dropping $1B Demand for Trump’s Ballroom

    And we thought we had it bad with the National Children's Hospital !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,957 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


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    Trump to a bunch of kids:

    "Barack Hussein Obama. Have you heard of him?"

    "You can have 200,000 people protesting and have five or six people with guns, and when they start shooting them right between the eyes ... a woman dropped dead with a bullet right there."

    "When you have transgender mutilization -- don't listen to this, kids -- of your children. For everyone. When you have policies like that, you have to cheat. We shouldn't allow them to cheat."

    "We can't let Iran have a nuclear weapon. You might be too young for this. They probably know better than most people. But you can't let a bunch of lunatics have a nuclear weapon. So we just hit records on the Dow."

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    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 4,610 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Ohio Republicans switching positions to avoid term limits.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,381 ✭✭✭bog master


    Beat me to it! You could almost classify that as child abuse ffs!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,893 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Oh trust me I know there's obstacles. However it could be argued that the ineligibility referred to in the 12th amendment is the natural born citizen, aged 35+ and resident for 15 years requirement. Rather than listing the requirements again, they just put that the VP has the same requirements as the president. That was their intention with the wording.

    The later 22nd amendment was specific to the president and not vice president. If they wanted to limit the vice president to 2 terms they would have added that into the amendment.

    So if that is Trump's intent, it would end up before the supreme Court when some states refuse to put his name on the ballot as VP.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,957 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    He swore to uphold the Constitution.

    This is just another example of pi$$ing all over it…

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,889 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    But it won't cost the taxpayer anything in the end due to a 600% tax rebate



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,624 ✭✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    The amendment actually differentiates in the text between being elected to president and serving as president:

    "No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once."

    one for the lawyers



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,889 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    What's for the lawyers - he can't serve a third term



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,464 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,624 ✭✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    He can't be ELECTED, the 12th amendment doesn't mention election

    But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,562 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Marco made it plain in his meet with the media. Operation Epic Fury is done, finished, ended. He also said that every president in office since the Congress passed the War Powers Act has seen the act as unconstitutional as it impinges on the president's constitutional power. One supposes that if Trump and his Secretaries are so sure the War Powers Act is unconstitutional they must go to SCOTUS to confirm that and get SCOTUS to strike it down asap as Iran is still objecting to the U.S blockade with military operations while the ceasefire is in operation. Neither a ceasefire nor an armistice are the solemn signed documented agreement to an end to a war.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,380 ✭✭✭the whole year inn


    Your completly deluded. You make your own tin foil hat?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,077 ✭✭✭✭briany


    He can say it's concluded all he wants. If Iran ramps up strikes on the US's middle eastern allies in UAE, Oman and Saudi, the US will be forced to commence Operation Epic Fury 2: Electric Portaloo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,077 ✭✭✭✭briany


    I put this question to ChatGPT, just as full disclosure.

    So the hypothetical would be:

    Donald Trump runs for Congress in 2028.

    Republicans win the House.

    • The House elects him Speaker.The Speaker does not need to be a sitting member of Congress under the Constitution, though in practice they always have been.

    A Republican president and vice president are inaugurated in 2029.

    Both resign.

    Under the Presidential Succession Act, the Speaker becomes acting president/president.

    That’s the scenario people sometimes talk about online.

    The constitutional problem comes from the Twelfth Amendment to the United States Constitution, which says:

    “No person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President…”

    Some constitutional scholars argue this implies that a two-term president is constitutionally ineligible to hold the presidency at all, whether by election or succession. Others argue the 22nd Amendment only blocks election, not succession.

    There is no definitive Supreme Court ruling on this because nobody has ever tried it.

    Because everyone else has had some degree of respect for the norms of American democracy. Not Donald Trump. He's a man entirely without scruples. He absolutely would try this if he thought it would work. If anyone thinks he's going to just walk away from power in 2028, they're absolutely fúcking dreaming .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,889 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Thanks for that - something he would most certainly try and do it day 1. Christ, imagine having him for near on the next 7 years



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 830 ✭✭✭PixelCrafter


    That sounds rather like Putin swapping between being Russian President and Prime Minister.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 333 ✭✭goldsparkle


    Trump has to be removed ASAP but nobody is doing it.

    2026 is so far bad enough with all this war crap and high energy prices but there's a pandemic in the pipeline all over hantavirus/antavirus. Trump is going to do sweet f*ck all to mitigate that virus.



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