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US/Israel conduct airstrikes on Iran again

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,987 ✭✭✭yagan


    From what we're seeing via various marine trackers there are ships exiting the strait and by staying close to the Iranian and then Pakistani coasts Trump's pirate fleet isn't risking going near them. So in effect Iran's new toll regime looks unlikely to ever be lifted, or altered. It is in effect a new norm.

    The UAE strop of leaving OPEC seems to have zero effect on their exports, its only tangible result seems to be more short term bridging capital from the US. With 88% of UAE residents being transient foreigners it's hard to see leaving OPEC as being anything other than the rulers prostrating themselves to the US as desperate supplicants.

    With zero preparation for an all out invasion of Iran it's hard to see much changing in the current dynamic, so at some stage we might see fractures within the UAE between rulers wanting to parley with Iran and those who'd rather just do a Shah on it by going into exile with their loot.

    Another unexpected boon has been for west Africa where the cost of shipping has greatly reduced because of the record high volume opting for the Cape rather than the Suez.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,627 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Last week US treasury warned 5 refiners and that they would be cut off from US banking and sanctions imposed on them for buying Iranian oil.

    The Ministry of Commerce declared the US measures as an unlawful extraterritorial application of law. It prohibits Chinese entities from recognizing, implementing, or complying with these unilateral illegal sanctions imposed without a UN security council mandate.

    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,929 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    I am so glad the German chancellor had a go at Trump about his idiotic and illogical war with Iran. The US are acting like complete idiots on the world stage and more leaders need to call them out on it. We face major economic repercussions later this year as the leg effect takes hold. Now is the time to shout stop. The US are completely rudderless and need to take an off ramp. Somehow the infantile US administration have managed to strengthen the regime in Iran too. Geopolitical and military amateurs. Israel want the war to continue indefinitely so they can level and annex more of Lebanon.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,627 ✭✭✭brickster69


    IRGC has defined it's area of control in the Persian and Oman Gulfs and asserts full military control over them.

    irgc.jpg

    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,627 ✭✭✭brickster69


    UAE been under attack by Iranian drones and missiles for most of the afternoon. Oil futures on the march again after two oil tankers were hit and fires at the Fujairah pipeline oil facility.

    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭wildgreen


    The war has evolved into the price of oil. how has the US sunk so low to illegally invade Iran only to end up in a petty economic war at the expense of hard won international behaviour norms.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,929 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    I am amazed this thread isn't getting more traction. This war, which USA have made an absolute balls of, is going to have a major impact on our lives in the months to come. Europe isn't doing enough to stop the craziness. The US and it's military look absolutely clueless now and Iran are toying with them.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,793 ✭✭✭dePeatrick




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,636 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    …Many comments about it mixed in on the Trump thread and the absolute mess the Trump administration have made of it.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,494 ✭✭✭T-Maxx


    Grow a pair and tell the US and Israel to **** off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭JohnDoe2025


    https://www.rte.ie/news/europe/2026/0504/1571612-taoiseach-eu-summit/

    Quite the opposite is happening.

    "It's essential that the Strait of Hormuz is opened up for the world economy and for all of the people of that region, so I welcome what appear to be tentative moves in the right direction."

    What Iran is doing, holding international waters hostage and attacking non-combatants is so fundamentally in breach of all international law and rules of war, that any response to it should be supported.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,793 ✭✭✭dePeatrick


    Do you seriously think they would take any notice?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,793 ✭✭✭dePeatrick


    You mean what the US is doing?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,987 ✭✭✭yagan


    I think part of the reason this thread has gotten quieter is that Trump has committed the US to orientate its entire military towards a war that he says isn't a war, yet has wartime consequences domestically with higher energy costs.

    US bases in Europe do cost more to maintain as the US dollar weakens and their debt repayments increase.

    I guess we're in the phony war stage, where Trump is too disorganised and mentally addled to formulate a way forward, too impatient for a quick win to listen to any experienced council, and too narcissistic to give Iran any option other than dig in further.

    The US stock market gives the impression that all is good, even though if you remove the FAANG bubble the overall index is flat, and when measured in other currency is actually in decline.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,929 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    What Merz did. They all need to be calling out Trump's idiocy.

    And stopping the latest annexation by the terror state of Israel. Not a single sanction for them... unbelievable.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,253 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    Do you still think this conflict wil be over in a few weeks or have you revised your estimate?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,929 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    That Hegseth lad is such a child. He hasn't a clue what's going on and talks so much nonsense.

    The whole US brand and reputation is in ribbons. They are a laughing stock on a daily basis. It's staggering how strategically inept the US has become.

    Post edited by Cluedo Monopoly on

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,126 ✭✭✭pureza


    The thing Israel has is money and controls on the levers of money which is why they hold so much sway in the U.S

    Ergo most governments including our own have to dance around that

    The closer we get to the mid terms,the closer e get to an end to the Iran US war or do we

    I used think it couldn’t go on beyond November but Trump and co have made such a tangle for the States that I feel the democrats might think not supporting the war to its bitter end would be more harm than good for the U.S

    Israel and the US do have the military might to crush Iran but the tangle is, now they’ve started,that to end it by military might would mean carnage on a scale that no one in Iran would be their friend after it

    Common sense would have been to let it alone altogether but sure that wouldn’t have made money for speculators would it



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 985 ✭✭✭midlander12


    Even if the war ends now, the sting in its tail will still be around in November and well beyond it. And with each passing week, the likelihood of a complete economic meltdown grows. If Trump really wants to rescue the midterms (and he no longer seems to care, or to have sufficient mental capacity do so), something will have to change dramatically within the next week or two.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 929 ✭✭✭engineerws


    Iran is the problem, not the two countries attacking it? Not the murder of 165 schoolgirls but resisting Israeli dominance?

    I can't understand your logic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,960 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Not like the US or Israel keep International law. Venezuela and The Lebanon say ' Hi'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,966 ✭✭✭amacca


    Because they elected a grifter moron to lead them and said initial moron selected a collection of lesser (but potentially more dangerous) morons to do his moronic bidding...there are one or two non-morons along for the ride but too few at a high enough level to ameliorate this shitshow.

    We are now along for the ride on the moron express.....Next stop ...inevitable unpleasant consequences ville.....population .... unlikely to feature any of Trump family you can bet.....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,627 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Rubio announces that Operation Epic Fury has concluded and all objectives set have been achieved.

    Now they just need to get a peace deal and open up the Hormuz strait which they could easily leave for others to sort out, while Trump arranges the date for his ticker tape victory parade.

    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,929 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    The US administration is all over the place. They look like complete and utter fools. The reputation of USA has been damaged for the long term. Nobody trusts them now. Project Freedom lasted 2 days. Chaotic stuff. Iran hold all the cards now.

    China, Russia, Iran laughing at the stupid Americans.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭JohnDoe2025


    Yes, Iran is the problem, has been for decades. Anyone with any understanding of the Middle East and the history of this Iranian regime supporting and supplying terrorist proxies for years would know this. From Syria to Lebanon to Gaza to Yemen, Iran has been supporting evil.

    That is why Europe has been so quiet on what Trump is doing to Iran. They don't like the way he is doing things, but they agree with his objectives.

    The behaviour of Iran since the war started, mainly targetting civilian facilities, blocking international waters, piracy, etc. demonstrates that the regime is the real problem.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,929 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    The regime that was on the brink in January but is now strengthened and unified after US/Israel attacked them during negotiations that were going well?

    A strategic disaster for the USA. Massive reputational damage. And Iran know their weak spot - Hormuz/Oil

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,468 ✭✭✭Tazz T


    The chinese must be stitches watching this clown show. Looks like they'll be underwriting any peace deal.



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