Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 02/09/25*

Let's say we remove 100,000 - 200,000 bogus AS and UKR refugees.

Things will change:

(1) large drop in public spending

(2) less demand for rental accomm, therefore, ceteris paribus, rents will rise less, and maybe even fall

(3) more supply of tourism accomm, therefore these prices should ease / soften

(1) you won't see a drop in public spending…. budgets are made and will be spent, otherwise you don't get that allocation the following budget period. Also, I wouldn't want a drop in public spending, I would like more, on legitimate requirements.

(2)In the illegitimate market maybe, you need ILR to rent legally in Ireland, which refugees don't have

(3)Yeah, that's not happening any time soon, it's baked into the market and would need hotels completely empty to cause any major difference.

If it was simple economics, the country wouldn't be in the position it's currently in. Ascribing wouldn't be a term I'd use, more representation of the preceding pages before I started posting in here. But hey, you keep focusing on immigration being the issue, while all those problems the government still haven't attempted to fix still bubble away.

I actually said "If you were to get rid of all immigrants" (a number of times actually)… I've no problem being mis-quoted though if it makes you feel better.

No embarrassment here either, it's baked in at this stage people blaming major issues on immigration, when the Government is actually at fault. I just feel for the Brazilian's and Indian's who had a few years of peace, when the Ukrainian support gets fully cut and people move onto the next figure of hate.

Yep, it is, and you know the context. If you clear them out, you still have the same issues. Blame the Government, not the immigrants, might actually make some progress.

Nah, I have full respect for anyone who gets educated in Ireland and stays in Ireland to try make it better, regardless of nationality.

It's great craic !

"Lets complain about the people the Government let stay and not about the Government who made it easy for them to do so"...

You guys are going to love the new immigration policy coming in EU wide in the summer... and Ireland hasn't a say, as it was all voted in, in the Lisbon treaty.

Obviously not clear enough, seen as you've created a statement I never said.

Full respect for people who take Government funding for education and stay in Ireland to utilise it.

Isn't that actually incorrect, because in Lisbon we had an opt out, given to us when we were told to vote again and tick the right box this time.

An opt out which our government refused to countenance using, that mean they would have to take some responsibility for policy as opposed to saying 'but the EU' or 'International obligations'

Ireland opted in, in 2024. No referendum needed as it was contained in the Lisbon treaty.

It's hilarious how many people don't realise this.

edit: no one quoting this post? Mental that the Government backtracked on something they said they wouldn't do, to get a poll over the line. Lets just blame the immigrants though :-D

Hopefully they do, be the difference you want to see.

Or, jump ship and moan about immigrants, while being an immigrant, whatever floats your boat.

Unskilled family in tow, happy to live in smaller living space Irish skilled work left Ireland over, when they earn ILR, so do family members meaning access to social support… then just add in any negative sentiment in the thread, that too.

I love how everyone thinks it's 1 in 1 out on skilled workers…. Where is usually single, skilled Irish worker, replaced by foreign family.

New work permits in Ireland issued by the Enterprise Minister FG Peter Burke to non-EU citizens in April 2026

3,336 in the month of April

• 30% India
• 20% Philippines
• 15% Brazil

12,219 in the four months to April 2026, on course for nearly 40,000 in 2026

You can find all the tables including names of companies behind the work permits; Employment permit statistics 2026

Compare the permits issued to March….

How many homes will the recipients of 3,336 non-EU work permits issued in the month of April 2026 require? It may be a small proportion of housing need, but it nonetheless obviously exacerbates the housing crisis. The demand will change with family reunification or births. Imagine

Two examples of the type of businesses they issuing permits for Here & Here. Not one person in the EU, a population of 450.6 million people, could be found with the right qualifications to work in any of those food establishments? Spain has 25% youth unemployment……

He runs a NGO called MASI. So basically we're paying for him to call us all racist...

Ireland's birth rate has fallen by almost 20% compared to ten years ago, and women are having their first child at an older age. Our fertility rate for Q3 of last year was 1.5. well below the replacement level of 2.1 children per woman. When you consider a large amount of those births will be to foreign parents, the native Irish birthrate is probably even below 1.The government’s strategy is not to try and increase the Irish birthrate through post-natal incentives like but to import as many foreign nationals as possible, especially those from countries where having large families is embedded in their cultures

https://www.pressreader.com/ireland/irish-daily-mail/20260505/281801405575383