Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 02/09/25*

Enjoy the wait

It’s about time MSM had the guts to discuss the seriousness of these issues. How they ignored the eye-watering amounts of money being spent on foreign nationals, while barely touching on the problems our own people have been dealing with for years, should put them all to shame.

The ‘welcome all’ crowd who think there’s a bottomless pit of money provided by our tiny population also need to take a good hard look at themselves. All the preaching and do-gooding about our ‘obligations’ doesn’t cut it any longer from know-it-alls who have no idea about the lives of many Irish people. Our obligations are first and foremost to our own people. Ofc we can help others, but not when it’s to the detriment of our own, that’s just wrong.

There is simply no way the Government changes policy on immigration as it will show up how terrible they are at running a real economy. Everything they do now is just to keep the silly old conservatives from coming out of their caves, a token gesture to keep them happy and win a few votes.

In fairness, it's been Ukraine bashing the last few pages. "Themz wit der free moneys"

Never more clear that you’ve nothing to say for yourself when your only point is to try and frame other’s arguments as being rooted in hatred rather than the actual reasons they’re highlighting

But at least you get to give yourself a pat on the back and try and fool yourself that you’re more moral than anyone else. Hope it’s helping you somehow because you’re fooling nobody otherwise.

It was a fairly straightforward question of where the hate is going next?

Would be great if it was pointed at the Government, but nah.

My fundamental argument which you all have falsely attributed to loving Ukrainian refugees is, you could rid Ireland of all immigrants, and the issues would still remain.

So who is the next group to be blamed when the Ukrainian payments stop?

I do think there will be worthwhile ROI on a lot of Ukrainian's who don't go home and set up shop in Ireland. Massive work ethic, very clever, would glady pay towards their education over someone who is trying to get a degree just to jump ship.

It's not really, if people were concerned about the fundamental core issues that immigration is exacerbating, they would be out protesting against it. This isn't something that has happened overnight, it's been allowed to happen through successive Governments. People take the easy route and blame others, instead of taking on the fact that maybe they are somewhat to blame for allowing it to happen.

I see Lucky Khambule is getting airtime over what Hutch said. Maybe Lucky should look at his own country and how they're marching the streets, hunting for foreigners. Instead he comes over here like that fool Ebun Joseph and lectures us how to run our country.

https://www.thejournal.ie/gerry-hutch-immigrants-interned-campaign-7030743-May2026/

It's not, no matter how many times you say it is. Clear all the immigrants tomorrow and you still have all the same fundamental issues, that is the fact.

You think people haven’t protested but brought this huge wave of immigration on ourselves hahaha, I’ve heard it all now. Is that the latest tactic now that labelling posters racist, nazis, bigots, and haters, is not working?

Posters like yourself have been pontificating and moralising about our international obligations, the Geneva convention, that we are responsible to house and feed any grifter who turns up here because some Irish people emigrated in the past. That somehow makes the rest of us who stayed here to build a strong country for our children responsible for looking after them.

Posters like yourself have blindly refused to admit that the rapid increase in population has had a disastrous impact on housing, numerous public services, and the public purse. Sometimes I wonder why simple arithmetic seems beyond many these days.

Also, trying to backtrack in an effort to obscure a nasty dig at a poster who shared official statistics is not fooling anyone.

So in the last week we have had:

• Confirmation that immigration is adding to prison overcrowding, despite being told there was no link with immigration and crime.
  
• Simon Harris announcing that supports for Ukrainians are being wound down, that they’re unsustainable and that he’d do it differently if he had to do it all again.
  
• The Goverment confirming that over 50% of our homeless (who will all require housing) are non-nationals, despite being told previously that immigration wasn’t contributing to the housing crisis.

It’s encouraging to see some recognition now of issues that many people have been raising for a long time - it’s just a shame that people were dismissed as racist or right-wing for pointing out what was plain to see.

Oh you’ve said it’s not? Well that settles it so.

And yes the same fundamental issues would still be there. But some of them would be much less severe.

How many times does it have to be spelled out to you that something can effect something else while not being the root cause?
Are you actually able to grasp that concept?

In any case nobody (bar maybe a handful of fringe lunatics) is talking about clearing all immigrants, that’s yet another strawman, so it’s irrelevant.

Come back to me when you’ve an actual point to make, not empty moralising and responses against arguments imagined up by you that nobody’s making.

Where exactly have I attempted any empty moralisation, and where have I said get rid of all immigrants?

Who are you blaming when the Ukrainian's have all benefits cut?