Kilkenny GAA Thread

I understand Westmeath are out but can anyone explain the logic as to why they are out ? Has to a be a logical reason why.

Two groups of three

KK, Dublin, and Laois in one group, Galway, Wexford, and Westmeath in the other

Rather than playing all the teams in your own group, you instead play the three teams in the other group

Points are then totted up and the top two in each group qualify for the SFs

Galway finished with 5, Wexford with 4, Westmeath with 4 (Wexford better score difference)

Dublin finished with 3, KK with 2, Laois with 0

Think it's Dublin vs KK and Galway vs Wexford in the SFs, could be mistaken on that count

Hahahaha that's the stupidest format I've ever heard of.

Hypothetically EVERY team in one group could win ALL their matches and yet two of the teams from the other group would go through just based on having the least bad scoring difference in all those losses, and an undefeated team would get knocked out. Who on earth thought that up?

Same system has applied in kilkenny camogie club the last few years.not playing teams in your group mea ns you could top your group without winning a game. Example 2 groups of 3 ,one group wins all their matches against the other group.you could ein all 3 and finish last or loose all 3 znd finish too.has come close a couple of years in kilkenny senior camogie championship. Can't understand how the clubs haven't thrown it out.

I think the logic as follows (I don't agree with the logic but this is what they probably thought)….

Westmeath/Kildare/Offaly/Laois/Carlow/Antrim/Meath/Down all deserve the right to qualify for the Leinster Championship proper

Once in there, they deserve to be on an equal footing to the rest i.e. can't have a group of four with Galway, KK, Wexford, and Dublin and then another group of four with say the likes of Laois, Offaly, Westmeath, and Kildare, had it last year that the top two in the Big Four group went straight to the SFs and the bottom two went to the QFs where they played the top two from the qualifiers group

Didn't want eight teams as they thought there would be too many beatings

So if you have the qualifiers and want everyone on the same footing, that reduces the number of weeks you can run the Championship over

Am guessing they only had five weeks so they thought best case scenario was to have three weeks of group games, then SFs, and then the Final

Didn't want to have the teams playing the teams from the same group as that would only mean two games

Can guarantee three games by going criss-cross i.e. playing teams in the other group

Might have worked better had they started the qualifiers a week earlier and then used two groups of four like they did with U20

What a game between kilkenny and Galway in the u16 all Ireland camogie final. I don't watch a lot of camogie but that's one of the best games you'll see this year. Kilkenny looked to have it won twice but Galway never gave up. The replay will be well worth seeing .

Won't name any names but some super players on the kilkenny team. Future looks bright with the u18 winning last week too

well the name is apt anyway. That explains it perfectly. But it still makes no sense if you know what I mean.

The only positive is the amount of games each county gets in minor, particularly those seen as weakest. Hard not to feel for Westmeath all the same. Kilkenny weren't highly rated at the start of this championship and that is how it is turning out. They are a very hardworking honest team in the main. Thought well set up in 1st half v Wex particularly puckout wise. This changed completely second half when against wind. Wex half backs and midfield totally owned the ball and we were surviving on scraps. O'Neill, Corr and Walsh all tidy hurlers along with Bolger midfield but light and with Joe Dowling tied down more than in previous games we lacked real bite in front of goal. The backs are genuine all 6 with Paddy Grace a classy wing back. I think a good few of this team will do well going forward. More highly rated KK teams have struggled in Wexford Park. That is a very decent Wexford team and will give renewed hope to the county.

Taught no.12 Pembroke O'Neill was very good under the puckouts too.

Kilkenny county board used a very similar system in the Senior and intermediate during covid

Still do at senior

Jaysus Limerick are cruising, Clare are in big bother 11pms. Down. How wrong I was.

If you dont work as hard as Limerick do off the ball you are onto a hiding to nothing. Clare forwards just didnt work hard enough

3 more games for Limerick to an all Ireland.

5 games. 2 more games in the round robin, Munster final, AI semi final and the final