Michael | Official Trailer

I’ve no intention of seeing this rubbish but - please can someone explain to me why Wacko Jacko gets a “free pass” despite decades of notorious child abuse???

Should I expect “Jimmy Saville - the glory years” in my local cinema next?

read the full thread and your question is answered ten times over.

But you're using your energy for nothing and it isnt getting you anywhere. People will always love his music. He was that good and he wasnt just part of pop culture. He was pop culture. None of us can dismiss that. Music is subjective to taste but for a period he was amazing and the heights and influence he reached and had will never be seen again in our lives.

I'm not blind to his personal life. I hamg on to the hope he didnt commit those crimes. Im Irish and we all know the story there. If it actually is proven he did, I'll think he's a piece of **** but I'll always be a fan of his work from when he was a kid up until 1991 (Some tracks are amazing after that period but the majority is meh to me)

What I often struggled with is so many artists are awful. As a Dub, we celebrate Oscar Wilde. Statues and tours. Bowie and Zeppelin were mentioned in this thread. One raping a minor with a fish ffs. Yet, thete is next to nothing about that from the general public. Someone left a link to a reddit account where people are speculatiing about who MJ molestated and that he only performed and done music to feed that. That's outrageous and I draw the line at people describing that. He may have been that but literally **** on art and speculating to appeal to your own narrative, especially in such disgusting crimes like this, is wrong and I would hope people in this thread don't participate in that.

I personally think he gets it the most because he was that famous (Grew up during it and looking back, it is unhealthy) and because there is a part of us where we know he was that amazing and we all thought he was that wholesome and giving etc, that we are afraid to look at ourselves and admit we werw lied to.

Again, I really hope he didnt commit those crimes.

And again, no one in this thread who saw the movie has given it a 1/10 like the critics. Its fine. Not something I'll watch again. But a 1/10 suggests the worst movie ever. It really isnt

Will always be of the opinion that the Thriller album was the start of it. The very thing that made him who he is to us, enabled him and destroyed him

Have you never heard of the Epstein files? 😂

The FBI did have a strong case, but it still didn't result in any major charges, instead the U.S attorney just cut him a plea deal and he only had to plead guilty to soliciting prostitution and soliciting a minor for prostitution, he didn't even get done for actually committing the sexual acts.

The FBI can have a strong case, and still nothing may come of it. Obviously years later for Epstein they made a new case, and that may well have happened to MJ if he was still alive too.

I wouldn't say I'm taking it personally. Far from it. I have issues with the movie and gave my honest opinion on it here. I just don't think its 1/10. That score suggests to me that a movie is the worst thing to ever appear on screen. This movie is certainly not as bad as its made out. Its also a biopic. They're all fluff pieces. The Apprentice is the best "biopic" I've ever seen though. Naturally because it was independent from the subject matter

As a reference, The Devil Wears Prada 2. I saw a few reviews absolutely fawning over it. Saw it last night and its good. Not as good as the first one but good all the same. It doesnt warrant such praise from certain critics.

The thing about Jackson is, he was such a cultural phenomenon that people, fans or not, will show up to watch the movie, as you can see from the numbers its doing. Be it out of curiosity, fandom, nostalgia, whatever the reason. Allegations or no allegations, crime or no crime, Michael Jackson's music and art is embedded in society and culture and always will. Even long after we've gone. Its just something people will have to accept and move on. There will always be a cloud over his legacy though because of his horrendous behaviour

Comparing Epstein to Michael Jackson is ridiculous.

Epstein had 1,200+ documented accusers and ended up in jail.

You need to use common sense - 10 year investigations by 2 separate agencies and zero charges for a supposed prolific abuser - makes no sense.

Plus he had a trial whereby those accusers were ripped apart and exposed as the grifters they were and he was quickly and easily acquitted.

have seen it - 2 proven lying grifters and their claims have been discussed at length in this thread if you want to read through it.

You're the one who compared them 😂

I really don't think you're in a position to be telling anyone else to use common sense.

I don't care if he was acquitted, he was still very obviously a pedophile and they're going to struggle to make a second movie with any kind of honesty, but then that's fine because obviously they can't be honest, at least it will bring the estate more money so that they can pay all these settlements.

How do you explain away the 2 10 year investigations by 2 different agencies - not enough evidence to even bring charges against him?

has been mentioned multiple times in this thread so read it. What you’ve said is incorrect.

if you’re not willing to read the thread I’m not going to waste my time engaging with you. The statements are easily backed up with a little research online.

fair play to Janet Jackson for vetoing using her character in the movie.

She probably has the inside story and has a bit of cop on to have nothing to do with the legacy of Michael Jackson

i dislike Janet Jackson (at least LaToya spoke out…) but I will give her a small bit of credit for keeping away from this dumpster fire of an effort to “whitewash” a very, very dodgy legacy.