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National Broadband Ireland : implementation and progress

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 514 ✭✭✭westyIrl


    I would usually agree. However I'm operating a business so I have rack with switches, firewall, ups, pbx etc at the internal location and access points fan out from there, so it really is the right place. Through the wall next to access chamber (where original eircom cable ran) is a room I'm planning to remodel and bringing ethernet from there to rack would be an even greater headache than running the ducting as I was describing above.

    I just noticed this post but it was eir ftth and seems to have worked out:

    Looks like I might get away with 25mm ID for 25 meter run going by this. I also noted Eir's ducting guidelines state that External Fibre cable can only be brought 1m into the building so hopefully a similar NBI policy doesn't exist and the NBI/Circet installer can make it work out on the day.

    Jim



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 514 ✭✭✭westyIrl


    Just a follow up from my above question for anyone that will find themselves in a similar situation. I had the Fibre drop from the pole DP to the ground access chamber done today and all went well. I have to say Circet guys have been an absolute pleasure to deal with.

    Spoke with one of the installers and putting in the 1 inch hydrodare from access chamber to the planned internal ONT point is perfectly adequate. They just finished up and left a coil of ~30 meters in the access chamber for duct run to ONT.

    I got a call within the hour from Circet to set up an appointment for the final install to run it inside the building next week. I just have to get the duct installed now. There was a (SC/APC I think) terminator put on the end of the fiber so whether that has to get through the duct or not I don't know, but I doubt it. Probably put on just to test integrity of cable back to DP or OLT.

    Jim



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,672 ✭✭✭✭listermint




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,953 ✭✭✭clohamon




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭Shane119


    Hi all. This appeared on the pole across the road from us in the last few days. Is that part of the fibre build? Were due for rollout in July-Sept.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,585 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Loop of fibre cable, waiting for installation of the DP.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,224 ✭✭✭✭The Continental Op


    Do they do some DP installs on the ground then wind the spare cable up and mount the DP high up on the pole?

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭Shane119




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭Shane119




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,678 ✭✭✭Glaceon


    Distribution point (I think). It's the box at the top of the pole where the fibre is distributed to each house.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,585 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Yes, our DP was connected up in the back of a van, 3 Romanian lads. Easier to work on the box, splice in the fibre, signal checks, etc., especially in bad weather.

    Then up the ladder to mount the DP on the pole and wrap the excess fibre around the mount.

    On install day the installer just plugs the drop cable into the DP without removing it from the pole, also attaches an eircode tag to the drop cable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,123 ✭✭✭pureza


    ok the cable has just passed my entrance with a curled up reel right at an old pole beside my poles into my property where the old eir cable used run

    What happens next and how long away is their next step?

    Also I looked at the underground section of the old eir cable for a section underground as it crosses under an Esb 110 line

    Will they insist on undergrounding the new fibre there too? Or just continue the overhead line? They’ve gone overhead under many high voltage lines elsewhere

    If they do,can’t we get them to use the eir cable to pull their fibre through the old eir underground anyway?


    edit it’s the same as the reel on the pole in the photo a few posts above,so the dp is next? Will it be another month before that’s on ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,585 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Next I assume is the installation of the DP.

    Following that the installer will run fibre to your house from the DP, how close is the pole with the DP to your house?

    The installer will go the easiest route, overhead most likely if your pole is within 50m of the house. They probably have a plan for your property already.

    Electricity lines have no effect on fibre lines, no metal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,123 ✭✭✭pureza


    The line of poles from where the dp will be to the house is about 450 metres

    The last pole is about 10 metres from the house



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,585 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Is the fibre at the 450m or the 10m pole?

    If at the 450m pole, a separate crew will run the drop line to your house from the DP, a roll of drop cable is 500m. They won't do the install, just the long cable runs.

    Another day an installer will do the final install, cable run to the entry point and mount the ONT and get you up and running.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 514 ✭✭✭westyIrl


    I just went through a similar situation. There was pole with an NBI DP approx 40 meters from my house that I had assumed they would be using for my connection. This would have been an overhead connection to gable and right into attic space where I wanted the ONT. However on first visit by NBI (Circet) the installer said this wasn't the DP planned for my connection and either way it passed under a LV line to neighbours house so that was a no go. I asked if they alter design plans often to which he said not really. The actual designated DP was some 200 meters away on opposite side of national road that they would have to get traffic control in place while they strung the cable over 3/4 poles (same poles going to DP 40m from my house so two fiber lines on poles) before going underground through Telecom Eireann era duct for the last 50m to a manhole chamber in my footpath.

    This chamber was approx 30m away from where I actually wanted the ONT so I had a significant amount of chasing etc. to do to get ducting from the access chamber to preferred ONT location. Coil of fiber was left in chamber while I sorted ducting.

    When installer came 3 days ago to install ONT, to be fair he was impressed how easy I had set it up for him. Fiber was pulled and ONT installed and spliced within 30 mins. I asked him what the story was with NBI and passing under ESBN lines. He said they needed 1 meter clearance for LV lines and 2 meters if I remember correctly for Medium Voltage lines but that they won't go under HV lines. Like Cush, I would have thought the fiber cable not being conductive would make it a non-issue. Not sure what the truth is. Only thing I can think of is interference when ESBN are replacing wires or maybe the first installer saw the existing eir duct as the easier option.

    Jim



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,585 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    I suppose they do have to maintain a certain clearance between the fibre cable and power line, they don't really want them touching in certain weather conditions.

    On my road many years ago as eir were rolling out rural fibre they installed ducting under a crossing power line, when fibre was rolling out they skipped the ducting and just ran it under the power line, same when NBI were overrunning their fibre, clearance distance is the key.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,123 ✭✭✭pureza


    IMG_7597.jpeg

    it’s at the road pictured above 450 metres from the house

    The above pole is where the old eir land line was connected and the poles on my land run along a ditch in a straight line from that pole



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,585 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    DP there.

    Once your eircode goes live for pre-order and you place an order a crew will run the 450m of drop cable to the house.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,123 ✭✭✭pureza


    I place the pre order with one of the companies is it and they instruct NBI/circet to run the line? I was thinking of bundling with virgin media for their tv service and maybe mobile,so ordering with them on their website will trigger it?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,672 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    EIR and sky also have tv and mobile id look at all the offers tbh. Some of them throw in multiple services like netflix and Disney and others into package . Have a good look and write down and do a comparison.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,585 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    You place an order with your preferred retail service provider, in turn the RSP places the order with NBI.

    NBI will either survey the long run to the house or if pre-surveyed arrange a contractor to run the cable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,123 ✭✭✭pureza


    NBI were here last summer and mapped the poles on my property up to the house,would that count as a survey?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,585 ✭✭✭✭The Cush




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 373 ✭✭rounders


    For lads that are live a while. What's the general opinion of going for the smaller broadband operators like Rural Broadband (https://ruralbroadband.ie/)

    They seem cheap but worry are they cheap for a reason. Would the main concern be congestion in their side if they sign up too many customers

    Given all providors are working off the same physical network I'm trying to understand where the bottle necks/risks could be



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭NotShero


    Yes there can be differences as NBI would be "handing over" to the retail provider's core network in most cases, where latency, peering and capacity might differ. There's usually not major differences but if issues with speed drops or latency spikes occur, it would be something to keep in mind as a switch of provider might fix the issue.

    Pure Telecom 500Mb with One Big Switch is €30pm for 12m

    https://onebigswitch.ie/offers/broadband



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,585 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Subsidy update

    To 1st May 2026, NBI had received subsidy totalling €1,523m

    Total “Permitted Expenditure” to date €1,603m



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,123 ✭✭✭pureza


    ok the black ONT thing ,the box was put on my poles and all poles to the end of the line today

    My Eircode checker had changed status even from this morning and now shows the below,allowing me to click through to the list of providers for pre order

    But none of them are saying anything is available yet

    Virgin media who I want to try for year one because nerdy me wants to try their tv service,have gone from saying not available yet to a message saying they’re‘warming up the cables’

    So when are they likely to accept an order and what happens next?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,672 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    The providers tend to be all over the shop in terms of when you can place order after you're status changes. I found anything from a week to 3 depending on provider.

    I think sky and eir have very compelling tb packages the former having bundled Netflix HBO and others into one price. So id look around personally in more detail.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,285 ✭✭✭worlds goodest teecher


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    This is NBI



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