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That Trump thread is a joke (IMHO)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 291 ✭✭TerrieBootson




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,381 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    But how?

    Do mods have to try and recruit Trmup fans to defend him?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,634 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Correction - Trump fans who can make a sustained case for Trump without having to resort to trolling and get themselves banned.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,703 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    Behind the scenes, the reality is that this thread is not reported very often. Yes, we see some reports for various things, but overall the levels of posts being reported is relatively low.

    If posts are offensive or bullying then they need to be reported. Simple as that.

    Anyway, I'm out unless there are any substantive issues raised here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,594 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Thank you for speaking for everyone.

    How many people are even aware of this thread, it was only opened last night.

    Maybe its the same cohort of posters predominantly posting here that are guilty of the behaviour outlined in the OP, did that thought ever occur to you ??



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,634 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Maybe you should take that up with the powers that be who enquired on the thread as to the "general consensus"?

    How many people are even aware of the thread? Well, that can apply to either side of the discussion.

    Noted that you have been unable to refute the basis for my statement as to the 'general consensus' with reference to the posts on this thread.
    And I made no attempt to present it as a unanimous view.

    And maybe the reason why they were driven out of the site or banned was because of their own poor behaviour, and inability to present their "differing deductions" without resort to trolling, bad faith arguments etc

    Did that thought ever occur to you?

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,594 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    It not being reported very often would back up the theory that it is indeed an echo chamber.

    Id bet good money that the reports occur when some poor sap drifts in and disturbs the equilibrium.

    That thread has largely been abandoned by most posters and for good reason. A Catholic turning up at a July 12th parade would get a warmer welcome.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,703 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    That thread was created in May 2024 and has, for about 95% of its existence, been on page 1 of the CA forum. It has almost 2,000 pages. There are arguments on every single page.

    Today's argument is about the merits of Shotguns vs ARs. Its respectful though, nothing worth reporting as far as I can see.

    How do you suggest a thread of that size and scale is an echo chamber?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,848 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    "How do you suggest a thread of that size and scale is an echo chamber?"

    Because his is generally the minority opinion, therefore bad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭csirl


    In fairness the vast majority of the posters are anti-Trump. I was thinking a high % of them due to the "Jerry Springer" posting style and the emotional attachment to the politics of another country



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,685 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Outside - and even within - the US the vast majority of people are anti Trump. Why would the proportions of Boards posters be any different?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 25,000 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    I'd suggest it's because, like most Trump "supporters", he views party politics in terms of sports teams (hence the accusations in this thread that anyone who believes that Trump is an evil, wannabe dictator must be a Democrat supporter) and they view the fact that there's less of "their side" on the thread (and that those who express support for Trump are generally assumed to be idiots pretty much precisely because of this) as a lack of balance or evidence of an echo chamber.

    They can't defend Trump's "policies" because he doesn't really have any so just run from direct questions and come here to claim that "their side" are being bullied… 🙄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,848 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I'd also add, Irish people should absolutely care about the politics in another country, particularly when the politics of the country have led to a war with Iran greatly impacting the supply of oil to our country, leading to huge price rises and resulting in protests against our government.

    "When America sneezes, Europe catches a cold"

    We should absolutely care about the state of politics in America and the moron currently in charge.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 25,000 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    For those who think we shouldn't worry about US politics: would you be worried if Kim Jong Un had nuclear weapons?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,594 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    People are entitled to criticise Trump in that thread, nobody is saying otherwise.

    The issue is the attitude a certain cohort of regular posters on that thread have towards people who dont share their beliefs.

    Openly hostile, aggressive, condescending. Just really nasty, spiteful and itching for a fight, a bit like Trump in many regards, which is quite ironic.

    Anyone who doesnt believe Trump is the devil incarnate is labelled a "Trump Supporter".

    This shouldnt be tolerated, the thread should be civil and tolerant, its not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,634 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    The issue is you pretending like the Trump supporters aren't the ones who are (your direct words):

    Openly hostile, aggressive, condescending. Just really nasty, spiteful and itching for a fight, a bit like Trump

    That perfectly sums up the kind of Trump supporter who pops onto the thread and in their opening line uses a phrase like "There are posters on the thread foaming at the mouth…"

    This point has already been put to you and you have no comeback.

    There's a reason so many of them fall foul of moderation and it's not because of the spin you try to put on it.

    It's an example of moderation working validly to ban trolls.

    The CA moderation was loosened after previous threads like this, with some criticism about CA moderation being too strict on things like 'uncivil' conduct.
    And it wasn't the anti Trump brigade shouting for that.

    An 'opinion' defending a rapist like Trump, downplaying his vile actions and denigrating his victim isn't something to be 'tolerated' - it is something to be rebutted, challenged and called out for the morally disgusting position that it is.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,594 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    That comment is blatant baiting, yes.

    Thats one poster, there are loads more who ventured into the thread in good faith and very swiftly dispatched.

    What exactly is a Trump supporter in your mind ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,337 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    I only check in on the thread maybe once a week, I did 6 weeks ago for the first time in ages

    So at best you throw a casual eye at a thread you appear to have little interest in.

    Begs the question, why the Feedback thread?

    Strange.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,634 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Loads more are there? I don't give that any credibility.

    How do you know the reasons they were 'swiftly dispatched'? If by that you mean banned or sanctioned.

    If a poster has been banned for a post, the post may have been deleted.
    In some cases, a poster is banned for an accumulation of similar posts, one or two would escape sanction but not a repeated pattern.

    If the posts are there still for which they were sanctioned, it should be possible for you to cite some of them here as an example of biased moderation, as long as it is not an attempt to 're-litigate' a dispute resolution - at least that is my understanding based on comments on this thread and the Feedback forum charter. I hope mods \ admin will swiftly correct that if I've given a wrong steer.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,337 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    What exactly is a Trump supporter in your mind ?

    You.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,244 ✭✭✭growleaves


    Are you going to assassinate Kim Jong Un as well?

    I'd be worried if yourself and other regular posters on the Trump thread had nuclear weapons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,685 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    I seem to recall one poster who came to the thread, good while ago now and I can't recall details, with pro opinions about Trump which they expressed, and others responded, in a civil way, and a reasonable debate followed. There were no aggressive oaccusations or insults on either side and Trump's policies, or lack thereof, were discussed. I can't recall what the conclusion was.

    The main difference was that the poster identified policies, as they understood them, and tried to stand over them. I don't think they succeeded, but there were no insults, just opinions.

    Can anyone else recall this? It could have been in the first presidency.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,248 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    The op seems to want less moderation on the thread while you want more, what can the mods do?

    Do you report posters who you feel are insulting others? Being labelled a Trump supporter does seem a very weak insult.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,206 ✭✭✭nachouser


    His second term has had really negative impacts across most of the globe. It'd be weird if people weren't extremely critical of Trump and his ghouls. shrugs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,248 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    And he hates Europe and actively damages our economy with tariffs and NATO. Not really odd if most people on the thread dislike Trump.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 25,000 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    And where did I say I planned to assasinate Donald Trump? I said I'd have no problem with being remembered for having done so. There's a difference in those two statements and it's something people call "nuance". I know it's something neither Donald, nor his fans are particularly known for.

    TBH, though, I'd be worried if I had nuclear weapons too. There's absolutely no reason for a private citizen to do so and it's generally accepted that it's even a bad thing for governments to do so as, when "democracy"* fails, we can end up in the situation we're in today where the nuclear football is in the hands of a malevolent narcissist that certainly seems to be suffering from dementia and who, if he isn't actually an agent for the KGB, certainly does everything that one in the White Hosue would…

    (*in quotes here as I don't believe America truly is a democracy due to it's gerrymandering, the college electoral system, voter supression and Trump's comments about Elon Musk knowing "those vote counting computers better than anybody")



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,697 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    In this very thread you said, and I quote:

    Basically anyone who hasnt drank the Kool Aid is labelled a Trump Supporter.

    Which in turn means that anyone who is negative about Trump has just "drank the Kool Aid".

    That is hostile, condescending, spiteful, and itching for a fight.

    You are a hypocrite. This shouldn't be tolerated.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,244 ✭✭✭growleaves


    You wrote "Given the chance, I'd quite happily go down in history for having killed him", which I took to mean that you would kill him if you could since how else would you go down in history for having killed him? Through some kind of mass staged fakery where people thought you'd killed him but you hadn't?

    Anyway glad to hear you're not actively considering violence, just contemplating your legacy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,594 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    That is hostile, condescending, spiteful, and itching for a fight.

    No its not



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,976 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    “How do you suggest a thread of that size and scale is an echo chamber?”

    Well considering we have 3 pages of back/forth here on how bloody difficult it is to actually make some point other than “Trump is Satan” - as a start it would be a small gesture to reverse my previous “ban” of two weeks for CA, a few weeks ago over my very “ON TOPIC” “REFERENCE” to the boards.ie policy of banning posters who questioned Joe Biden’s declining performance -I made the point very much within the topic at hand that was all about MAGA’s closing down of independent news and media -I made the point that closing down discussion is not limited to the “far right” or “MAGA”- it was a perfectly legitimate comment to make.

    I got banned for it- my record on posting on Trumps performance stands as per my posts on that thread-I’m not a “fan” in fact -one such post was presented back to me in this thread by someone who can’t resist trying to get a rise out of me. But he’s still posting I see - funny that - there’s only so much bullsh1t a poster can take



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