Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 02/09/25*

Indeed we have a precarious funding model. We have squandered 30 year of prosperity. The "multinational" portion is the most critical driver of these figures. In 2025, total tax receipts reached approximately €105.7 billion. Corpo tax and MNC income tax account for.more than half of the entire national tax take.

​Corporation Tax Concentration: Roughly 80% to 85% of all corporation tax in Ireland is paid by foreign-owned multinational corporations (MNCs). Specifically, the top 10 payers (mostly US tech and pharma giants) typically account for over 50% of all corporation tax collected.

​Income Tax (Payroll) Impact: MNCs are responsible for a disproportionate share of income tax because they employ high earners. Estimates suggest that employees of foreign multinationals contribute roughly one-third (33%+) of all personal income tax and USC (Universal Social Charge) collected in the state.

If your personsl income.was made up of highly variable pay you certainly wouldnt be inviting people to.come live in your gaff for free and look after their every need.

With the government allowing back garden builds, if enough people take it up, those units could be counted toward meeting their supply of providing 30,000 housing target.

So all the tax paying adults who can neither afford to rent or buy - they should present every day for emergency accomdation for their situation be a consideration for Michael Martin. Good that he confirmed on Dail record what was widely known for years - Paddy is defintely last. A despicable politician he also went solo creating thr Ukraine pull factor.

What's the story with her airquotes "war"?

Nice! Did she broker the peace deal?

FG are in a similar mode. Harris is falling over himself to give away ‘packages’ of goodies. I saw a headline yesterday along the lines that FG voters were irked about lack of tax cuts in the last budget as if somehow he had no act, hand or part in it. Poor fella!

FFG must be worried that the Govt won’t last its term

So she is right, the war isn't happening anymore?

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/4/29/at-least-three-killed-more-than-10-injured-in-russian-attacks-on-ukraine

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0rxk4q0pj0o

https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2026/04/28/ukraine-says-it-shot-down-33000-russian-drones-in-march-a-new-monthly-record

Bloody fake news.

Thank God for the truth tellers.

which really they should be damn grateful for considering they bypassed the initial entry requirements entirely because of the circumstances.

That was primarily for the benefit of the EU. The alternative was they came anyway and claimed asylum.

Demanding literal refugees be "damn grateful" is about as JD Vance as you can get. 🙄

How they are not grateful?

I don't agree with that ladies sentiment on the status of the war. Having said that, as someone who emigrated for a substantial time in 2008 (during the economic crisis), Opportunities were slim and most of us had no idea where we'd end up. I was under no illusions that the state I settled in would cover my cost of living in anyway, shape or form. I felt obliged to work, contribute, learn the language and earn my right to live there. I was grateful to the country and always will be.

War is different of course, where you could be forced to leave. Having said that, the government supports were (or should) have been intended to give initial short-term support (incl. language school, schooling for kids etc.).

Here we are years down the line and you seem to push the agenda that government supports should be indefinite in a country where multiple issues are present for the long-term natives and other tax-paying home-owners / renters.

Why? Why should we, those who have roots here, or came in to the country and contributed, accept that. 4 years is absolutely enough time for people to be self-sufficient. Responsibility for one's life and duties seems to have gone out the window the past 25 years.

I'm sure many, many Ukrainians, the majority perhaps have done as much. They've worked hard, integrated and pay into society, or they chose to go home. This is not for them. I'm talking about this lady who was on the article this week. Why should we continue to pay for her accommodation needs. Firstly, I have family and friends who couldn't come home because there's practically nowhere to live at a survivable rate in this country, who aren't supported and whom nobody in govt. or the opposition cares for. Secondly, the cost of hospitability here is insane now. We've hotels which are essentially long-term asylum centres. What's the long term plan or is there any plan?

Patchwork short-sighted policies and a lack of long-term strategy is killing us. We need to wise up in this country and reward those who want to create a strong Ireland, be they native or immigrants.

I don't agree with that ladies sentiment on the status of the war. Having said that, as someone who emigrated for a substantial time in 2008 (during the economic crisis), Opportunities were slim and most of us had no idea where we'd end up.

That is clearly not the same thing, unless you had to hot tail it to the border under heavy shelling.

I was under no illusions that the state I settled in would cover my cost of living in anyway, shape or form. I felt obliged to work, contribute, learn the language and earn my right to live there. I was grateful to the country and always will be.

Again, the vast majority of Ukrainians are either in work or school.

Here we are years down the line and you seem to push the agenda that government supports should be indefinite in a country where multiple issues are present for the long-term natives and other tax-paying home-owners / renters.

Calm down, there is agendas clearly being pushed on the thread, but not by me.

Why? Why should we, those who have roots here, or came in to the country and contributed, accept that. 4 years is absolutely enough time for people to be self-sufficient. Responsibility for one's life and duties seems to have gone out the window the past 25 years.

Again, literal refugees fled their country, the vast majority being in employment or education.

I can't see how they are not being responsible for their own lives.

 I'm talking about this lady who was on the article this week. Why should we continue to pay for her accommodation needs. Firstly, I have family and friends who couldn't come home because there's practically nowhere to live at a survivable rate in this country, who aren't supported and whom nobody in govt. or the opposition cares for.

The lady never asked for her accommodation to be paid for, she pointed out the cost and lack of private accommodation, she also started the interview by declaring how lucky she is. But she needs to grovel harder, does she?

Firstly, I have family and friends who couldn't come home because there's practically nowhere to live at a survivable rate in this country, who aren't supported and whom nobody in govt. or the opposition cares for.

Well that is an issue, although 10s of 1000s of Irish are returning.

But again it's not the same thing.

The lady in the interview, talked about one resident in the hotel who couldn't settle and got home sick, so she returned.

She was killed on her way to work by Russian shelling.

Honestly, if I ever get to the point in my life that I am envious or jealous, or lets be honest just down right bitter about literal refugees, I would hope I would be able to pause and reassess.

People's anger isnt about war etc

Sure some people don't even believe there is war.

Evidenced by that ridiculous video you thought was a good idea to share here. 😂

They can work all they want (and a lot do), but under temporary refugee status, they don't currently have Indefinite Leave to Remain (ILR), which limits a lot of access to accommodation unless they can buy out-right (and if they could buy outright, technically they could still be booted out of the country next year).