Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 02/09/25*

Maybe the great Govt initiative to let the well healed rent out their nice gardens cabins for an unregulated rack (sorry reasonable) rent will proved a welcome relief?

I’m sure the fact the RTB regulation or pretty much any regulation don’t apply to them won’t matter as these opportunist landlords will just ‘be nice’ to all those desperate for accommodation. We just continue to love a 2 tier system in this country. Screw one crowd and turn a completely blind eye to another mentality alive and well

Define lots?

I imagine if that is happening, they are coming here for opportunities and not some magic money tap.

Over 60% of Ukrainians in Ireland are in employment.

It is an absolute staggering number and a testament to the Irish on how they have stepped up during a time of brutal war.

In a 100 years time we will look back proudly on what we did as a nation.

Obviously the tiny fraction that are the permanently outraged won't and will just continue to beat their chest shouting the bigoted narrative that all refugees are just scroungers.

Define lots?

I imagine if 

You can't look for definitive data in one sentence and follow it up with what you believe in the next. If you demand hard facts then you should provide hard facts to back up your own statements. Fair is fair and all that.

supporting themselves like everyone else

Everyone else doesn't solely support themselves though do they?

Our social protection budget is nearly 30 billion.

• As of 03 February 2026, of the 121,048 PPSNs issued to Beneficiaries of Temporary Protection (BoTPs) from Ukraine, 69% or 84,100 had activity in administrative data after 30 November 2025, based on data currently available to the CSO.
• Of the 84,100 individuals with recent activity in administrative data, women and men aged 20 years and over, made up 45% and 28% respectively of arrivals, while 27% were people aged under 20 years. Of all arrivals to date aged 18 years and over, 59% of males and 49% of females were married or cohabiting.
• In January 2026, 29,060 arrivals had earnings from employment, where their average weekly earnings were €540. The most common sector of employment was in Wholesale, Transport & Accommodation at 42%.

From the link you provided its about 35% are employed some would be in part time or voluntry . Out of 84100 , 29060 are working not 60% of the total Ukranians here ! Around Half the adults of employment age are working that leaves 50% still unemployed .

• Of the 84,100 individuals with recent activity in administrative data, women and men aged 20 years and over, made up 45% and 28% respectively of arrivals, while 27% were people aged under 20 years. Of all arrivals to date aged 18 years and over, 59% of males and 49% of females were married or cohabiting.
• In January 2026, 29,060 arrivals had earnings from employment, where their average weekly earnings were €540. The most common sector of employment was in Wholesale, Transport & Accommodation at 42%.

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You really want to believe Ukrainians are a success story for Ireland? Are you that simple?

They are a huge drain of resources and tax payers money. Why don't you support them all from your salary.

The counter argument here however is that only a reduction of liberties in general — and the increased digital control you refer to — could actually dramatically change or even reverse migration trends.

We have already seen this demonstrated in real life, where Covid lockdowns proved to inadvertently be some of the most effective anti-migration strategies on a truly global scale that we might ever see.

What would you actually do about it though? I mean, it is of course ironic that in the decades prior to 9/11, and in the years since, the nations of Christendom and their allies have done far more hurt to the Islamic world than vice versa — and any honest appreciation of global events in the past 25 years would tell you that Muslims have far more to fear from Christian countries than vice versa.

But even at that, despite the fact that for most of this century many of us have been conditioned to fear the Muslim, nobody has really come up with a solution to this that goes much further than — well — fearing the Muslim.

People just seem to put this idea out there offering a vague prospect of having less / no Muslims about the place, but never really elucidate on what this actually means or how it woukd be given effect in practice..

What is it you actually propose and what practicable, sustainable solution do you have for either eliminating the threat of sporadic Islamic terror in Western countries or somehow filtering migration in such a way that prevents Muslims from ever getting in ?

The criteria for being 'in employment ' in Ireland is laughably low, a few days work a year n hey presto.

Absolute nonsense.

Indeed, but that would be largely pensions, and welfare benefits etc for unemployed Irish citizens - the state has a legal responsibility to these citizens

Is there a legal obligation for the state to provide the supports in their current level to Ukrainians?

How long do you think these supports should be funded, if you’re not in favour of winding them down now

What will have to happen for the government to cut the umbilical chord on bogus assylum seekers. All who have received citizenship and are from designated safe countries should have citizenship revoked and deportation carried out if not found to be self sufficient, if in employment then they are issued with a work visa. That would include about 80 per cent of African migrants

Unemployed EU citizens with no significant PRSI contrinutions should be removed from all welfare supports. That will cover all the Roma gypsies apart from the one or two working for pavee point or other tax wasting NGOs. And the other cohorts from Eastern Europe that are living the good life here.

We have at 660 bn unfunded future liabilities which the government is aware of but seems not be concerned about. What was a tax payer ratio of 5 to 1 is now 4 to 1 and will be 2 to 1 in about 20 years.

An absolute sh1t show is whst we have.

this poster will never answer a straight question like yours , no matter what the thread

You are right, that one’s on me

After their ludicrously dishonest display of bad faith last month I haven’t a clue what I was thinking giving them the benefit of belief they’re after a genuine discussion. Totally undeserved.

Will be leaving it there

Also i cant see anything other than personal pensions being pludered to plug the short fall i mean hole in the pay as you go model applied today which is a squander fest