Mandalorian and Grogu

The show was good when it was about The Mandalorian (and Grogu). Once it started becoming a vehicle for spin-offs and focusing on story threads from Filoni's animated shows it just became a mess.

At the very least this film should help return to and probably conclude The Mandalorian's story and keep the focus on them.

I was really hoping for an Andor Season 2 4K release soon so I could get both seasons of it and watch them again, but a Season 2 release doesn't seem to be on the cards any time soon (saw a post on Reddit of a Twitter reply from someone at Disney saying that it could be next year at the earliest, no current plans yet).

Might just get Season 1 on 4K now and watch S2 on Disney+ again.

But yeah, a huge part of what made that show great was how it could stand alone, and not needlessly tie itself up in knots trying to incorporate or reference 40 years of extended lore or minor characters. I know Mon Mothma's speech and the attack on Gorman were used in the animated show to some extent, but it never felt like you had to watch the animated show to understand anything. Whereas that's the road Filoni seems intent on taking so much of the other content down.

yeah, super low for a Star Wars movie, but on a comparatively modest 166m production budget (and only 140m with tax rebates), it’s doing grand from a point of view of making is money back and not ‘flopping’. Nigh on half what Solo cost. Feels like they’ve not sunk too massive a sum into marketing either. I’d say if it hits 260m all in it’ll be grand.

It’s a bit of a weird yoke anyway… sort of Star Wars adjacent rather than one for the main fan base.

I suppose anything under 800 million for a Star Wars film would be considered a flop.

Honestly this held zero interest for me. I don't think I even finished the series. It jut became sillier and sillier and I could not sit through another hour oh him slowly walking or standing and saying "This is the way".

I think Jack Black was, for me, when it jumped the shark.

But this looked like a made-for-TV movie. Man, I'm old enough to have seen those two cheap-ass ones they made in the 80s and released in the cinema here (But on TV in the states). Even the name sounds like a TV movie

I think it's a bit unfair to move the bar just because its a particular franchise… like, it's a spin off movie, of a spin-off kid-centric tv show that only Disney+ subscribers have access to, so I'm not sure comparing it to broader audience core Star Wars movies is fair. I'm sure that's also part of why they were conscious to keep the budget at a more manageable 140m dollar outlay (including tax rebates), and didn't go mad on the marketing front (most estimates put it around a 250 million dollar total).

A flop is always just when a movie doesn't make its money back in theatres (production + marketing). And this has already earned 163 million globally since Thursday (and will earn another nice chunk today since it's a US national holiday), so in relative terms it's doing grand. Similar earnings to Solo, but on half the budget.