General Irish politics discussion thread

I'm sure if he was a current TD the FF party leadership would certainly sanction him for it

I wouldn’t be at all sure of that.

Maybe don’t reward them with government roles and ministries. Only gonna end in tears.

Its not a constitutional amendment we need. Its a complete overhaul of the whole Constitution as we approach its centenary, to enable a Second Republic, and reintegrate the six counties into an enlarged state and make it fit to serve probably 10 million people by the end of the 21st century.

They don't necessarily accept them. Its an abused privelege and should be above politics imo, but I'd accept that some individuals might due to circumstances commit offences that are totally out of character and previous character references might inform a judge of this.

Explain to me which law Glennon broke. You can't just decide to punish people for doing things that are legal but that you personally don't like.

Glennon was a private citizen who wrote a character reference. Incredibly stupid, incredibly naive, morally repugnant, but perfectly legal.

Do you believe in administering justice outside the law?

Which ministry did Jim Glennon hold?

I know there is huge disappointment out there that the TD wasn't someone prominent and closely linked to the current administration, but inventing a whole deal of nonsense to somehow rescue something to attack the government on doesn't look good.

Stop digging.
If he did nothing ‘wrong’ in your eyes, carry on.

Now you are inventing things that never happened.

Let me remind you of what you said:

"Perhaps, proper penalties for them when they 'fix things' they shouldn't be fixing would be a start?"

This was in the context of Jim Glennon, a private citizen, providing a character reference for a horrible person. Explain exactly what he did that was illegal requiring a punishment.

And in response to your little dig about me carrying on as if he did nothing wrong, let me remind you of what I said:

"Glennon was a private citizen who wrote a character reference. Incredibly stupid, incredibly naive, morally repugnant, but perfectly legal."

I have no idea who you are, yet you appear to have adopted a very aggressive approach when you are challenged for some very strange posts that you make. Again, explain to the rest of us in very simple words, what penalties you envisage for TDs and private citizens who make lawful representations on behalf of others?

I know several people who say O'Connell street was nicer without the traffic. There was also the incident with the Muslim Sisters of Eire

"As we were finishing our service, we were approached by a group of five or six individuals carrying Irish flags. They began shouting xenophobic rhetoric, telling us this country is 'only for the Irish,' that we don't belong here, and that we should 'go home,'" said the statement.

"In a beautiful show of solidarity, those around the GPO immediately spoke up, asserting that we are Irish. However, the situation turned hostile."

https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/muslim-sisters-eire-intimidated-oconnell-33753381

So what penalties should he face?

What penalties should others who have done nothing illegal face?

You have called for penalties for lawful actions by people, on what basis do you call for that?

Some kind of vigilante justice?

You have said that what Glennon did was wrong, and that representations made by TDs on behalf of constituents are wrong, and they they should face penalties. What exactly are you calling for and can you clarify? Do you believe in mob justice, to people being put in stocks and shamed for doing something you believe is wrong but is not illegal?

What does "fixing things they should not be fixing" mean? Are they electricians trying to fix a plumbing problem?

I am baffled by your posts. You seem to say a whole heap of nothing to have a dig at some politician/political party for the sake of having a dig.

Other than what Glennon did being incredibly stupid, incredibly naive, morally repugnant but perfectly legal, what penalty should he face?

Mary-Lou was clearly talking to the wrong women.

If his wife was anything other than a Caucasian woman from rural Ireland, her experience was typical of what happened during the blockade.

Apologies to him then.

It seems I have been blinded by the tribal defence of MLMD that seems to be so prevalent.