Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

Too soon...

Donnie's clapping seals on here have this really bizarre trait of holding random posters on an internet forum to a higher standard than the actual president of the United States.

I'd love one of them to explain why but unfortunately none of them ever have.

That was some time, wasn't it? A man cheats on his with an adult in the Oval Office and it rocks the nation. Now, Trump is essentially the worst human being in the world and the fans just chant "TDS" whenever he is criticised.

What is the rationale for a ballroom preventing assassination attempts or fake assassination attempts? Is it more bleach stuff.

One thing is absolutely clear here from this near disaster and that the secret service needs to be a stand-alone body free from total DHS control and interference. FFA got it right in his instant criticism of the federal security screen at the hotel, that he saw the gaps; itself so telling. He was able to get a booking at the hotel, itself nothing unusual except for the fact that it was intended for use as the White House Press Corp annual event with the president as the guest of honour on the same day.

If the FFA had been a suicide bomber instead of a shotgun carrier, it could have been a reprise of the Grand Hotel Brighton bombing with a complete destruction of the Trump Administration. The blame for the risk to Trump et al lies with the top members of the Admin itself in the way they rule the security aspect; publicity over protection. Its given those writing the handbook on how to kill a president a manual for free. Listening to Trump on one of the interviews after the fact is telling. He gave a very sober relay on what happened, without trying to build it up, which made clear he knew how lucky he was that the FFA was only carrying firearms.

I hate myself for making this comparison but when Alexander the Great died, his generals, family and friends immediately disregarded his will and began a long struggle for control of the empire.

Trump is the galvanising force, the glue that holds MAGA together. Without him, you just have a load of deeply toxic men who will turn on each other once he dies. I suspect that JD Vance, with Thiel's backing, will be the successor but he won't have the same hold over the base that Trump has.

Definitely right on the comparison I would say, although I share your opinion of making it. Also right on the coming MAGA civil war. I personally don't believe that Trump has a successor lined up, his fragile ego and narcissism would be incapable of accepting even a suggestion that somebody else might be able to take over.

Mad timing, the week the loons in the Maga Sphere start amplifying the assassination attempts were false flags, this happens.

Apart from when the guy who actually took a shot at him was a registered Republican, but yes 'it's always them'.

Vance would loose the rapist/pedo part of the base, but gain the couch fetish folk. Would that be enough?

In fairness that's a fair point.

The ballroom for the WHCD is in a Hilton hotel and the security is in the foyer for anybody arriving for the event

But because it's in a hotel anyone, including the shooter, can book into the hotel and already be beyond the security control. In this case he checked in days before. Apparently it's a thing for guests to go downstairs to try to spot famous journalists or lawmakers or just observe the fashion of people going to the gala.

So I don't think Trump is saying it's safer because there's no rooms physically above it. He's making the point that at the White House it's not a public setting whereas at the Hilton you have rooms available for the public to book in the same building

I'd be very surprised if they allow this again in the future. Yes you could argue they could vet and search guests better but I do think it's a fair point to question why you have such an important gathering of people in a public hotel in the first place, which strengthens the argument for a venue at the White House

Oh, the base will shrink to some degree as whichever successor will find themselves inevitably wanting in comparison to the OG.

And the judge said it can legitimately be called rape cause it matches the classification of rape in plenty of jurisdictions. It was unclear if he digitally penetrated or if it was his penis and there was absolutely no consent, so that's not so bad? Downgrading it to a serious sexual assault doesn't make it sound much better btw and you'd probably call that a loaded question too. Also if I recall correctly, you rejected the ruling entirely and repeatedly implied his victim was a liar.