Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

good spot, so it wasn’t like the shooter was just outside the door

It's not that there is anything about it that makes me think that it's likely to be a conspiracy, it's more to do with this administration's strained relationship with the truth over the years.

When you lie all the time, about anything, about things that matter a lot but also about things that don't matter at all, constantly exaggerate, demean and deflect, you can't be surprised that people have a hard time trusting you and just assume everything else you say or do is lies.

.if any president was going to be accused of staging his own assassination attempt in recent times its Trump

Yeah but given the circumstances of this one I presume i you're positing it was a false flag you'd have to assume this guy Cole Allen is some sort of Deep state actor willing to sacrifice everything for the cause…into Alex Jones territory right out the gate AFAICS…

No different to any generalisation including the boards bubble where all trump supporters are.... Well I'm not going to repeat the vile that goes around here.

No, I'm not positing it was a false flag....

I just don't know, I have no solid info I feel I can trust to go on tbh

I'd say its more likely nutjob....but let's be honest, what do I know really?

What I was positing really was...of all the administrations this one is most likely to pull stunts.....I think we have enough data to say that isn't a stretch...

If it was a staged event the Secret Service are mixed up in it. The reporting is that Allen "fired a shotgun at a Secret Service agent at a checkpoint in the Washington Hilton hotel before being tackled and arrested."

Did Oswald shoot JFK? Hmmm. Convenient isn't it that JFK was supposedly murdered by a Communist? That's what they want you to think.

We have to ask the hard questions, guys.

Okay but if you're even accepting it's a realistic possibility I think you'd have to assume something like the motivation I sketched out for the 'shooter'…

Trump and the US Congress helped initiate Operation Warp Speed in April 2020.

Doe anyone here feel differently about taking an mRNA vaccine now knowing that it was part-spearheaded by someone who may be mixed up in staged events/false flags?

And? He spent years putting out so much anti-vaxxer drivel that the journal PLoS One identified his then Twitter account as a key hub of misinformation.

I don't think anyone is seriously saying it's fake. But it's just the oh so convenient timing of it and the capital that Trump is going to try and make out it that makes it stink. That and the sheer speed of this guy's credentials being shoved out to the media.

People are just being a little facetious about it being a set up.

When filmmaker Chris Morries was promoting his last film, 'The Day Shall Come', he was talking about the research that went into it and one quite interesting thing he came across was that the FBI will often identify domestic crackpots and cranks who are found to be talking about doing some kind of radical act and then actually have agents go undercover to actually aid said crackpots in realising their ambition. And there are cases where its only really the undercover agents' goading or provided aid which actually brings the plans to any kind of fruition, just so the FBI then have reason to go in and make the arrest and thereby buoy up their stats.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/nov/16/fbi-entrapment-fake-terror-plots

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-terror-stings-entrapment-or-prevention/

Hutaree militia acquitted of sedition charge - BBC News

To be very clear, we don't yet know if any domestic law enforcement agency had prior knowledge of the shooter's intentions or were in any way involved with getting them to act, but it's not an invalid question to ask.

What kind of nonsense is this?

As in deep state actor willing to sacrifice everything?

It seems very far fetched to me tbh....but I consider myself relatively rational and I wouldn't like to face a death penalty life imprisonment etc for anything.....can't imagine myself believing in anything so strongly I'd be willing to make sacrifices to commit what is a potentially much more heinous crime...but then I couldn't imagine any sane rational human voting for Trump thinking he would make things better (if you are not exceptionally wealthyor corrupt or both at least) - there are a lot of other stupid things I think humans wouldn't do either but I am surprised frequently

If you want to go real tinfoil hat what about modern manchurian candidate type set up.....gradually brainwashed/radicalised via social media etc and then set on a path with some trigger.....a number of likely individuals identified by their online activity or other data etc...no need for any secret service collusion! 😀...

I agree. We've seen here how it works here with infiltration of Republican groups - especially MI5 agents within the Provisionals.