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Shane Lowry - 2019 Champion Golfer of The Year (note first post please for posting guidance)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 477 ✭✭IAmTitleist


    He's a sour big crater anyway. Doesn't have the stones to get wins but has plenty of talent to make 10s of millions to be fair.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,329 ✭✭✭bobster453


    How do you figure that?

    He has a Major and what, 6 or 7 more professional wins, 8 second places and 9 or 10 third places.

    Thats waaaaaaaaayyyyy above the average for a professional golfer.

    Comparing him to the creme de la creme is unfair.

    Accepted his meltdowns after a bad shot are a bit extreme.Needs to put in the work on his mental game imo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,118 ✭✭✭Trampas


    Shane is a top golfer and he has proven to be well capable to perform year in year out. Yes his fuse can be short only for he’s in tv groups we wouldn’t see most of his f bombs but normally they don’t destroy his round. Only issue he has had over the last few years is getting it done on a Sunday. Results page would it would be plenty of top 10’s. A lot of them would have had a bad start and come back into it but never going to win and a few where he let slip late on but this year was two he should have won but I would say the nerves got to him. How much it has affected him is only Shane can say but he won’t say because sports psychologist will tell him not to. Weight is done to death. He could lose a few kgs and could throw his swing out completely



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 42,997 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    He's lost a lot of weight recently.

    And Craig Stadler was in way worse shape than Shane is and won three tournaments past the age of 40 including one at 50 years old.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭daithi7


    True, however Stadler wasn't competing against as chiseled, strong & flexible athletes as Shane has to.

    Yes, his final round melt downs & mess ups could come down to nerves, physical fitness could also be an issue with this I.I.e. If you're not as fit as your competitors you're more likely to have final round mess ups, &/or over reactive temper tantrums, &/or final round melt downs.

    For me, Shane's iron play & short game can be really exquisite & world class, he's a brilliant matchplay & Ryder Cup player, but he needs to work further on his mental & physical fitness imho, and on controlling his temperament better under pressure imho.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,691 ✭✭✭MayoSalmon


    And John Daly won a major drinking coke and smoking fags... exception doesn't make the rule.

    Focusing on outliers to excuse his poor conditioning for a professional athlete is faulty logic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,620 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    Its clearly the mental side not physical letting Shane down recently.

    Its a different discussion to say should anyone, let alone a professional athlete be overweight.

    Maybe you could try tie in the mental discipline required in losing weight to the mental discipline hes been lacking in getting over the line recently.

    But that feels like a stretch (no pun intended)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 ondeck


    It looks to me that he has the physical ability and talent but is badly in need of a good sports psychologist like a Bob Rotella so he can go out Sunday really believing he can win. Practically all top sports people have one now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 477 ✭✭IAmTitleist


    He has one win in 7 years since he cruised the Open.

    I'm not counting a doubles win paired with Rory because it isn't the same as an individual win.

    I don't have figures to hand because i don't really care all that much but i would assume there is a mountain of golfers with more than one win in the last 7 years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 42,997 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    In the early 00's golfers had become fit and healthy. Obviously with time and evolution people are fitter and stronger but the comparison still qualifies. Stadler wasn't even close to as fit and healthy as Shane.

    As I said Shane has lost, and is losing weight.

    Here he is at last year's US Open and he'd already lost a fair bit of weight by then.

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    And here is him at this year's Masters

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 42,997 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    He has Bob Rotella in his corner and was talking to him on the putting green before his collapse a couple of weeks ago.

    His problem is pretty simple to identify and it's the people around him that are the problem. He's been told to be safe when he's in front. That's not his game, you play the same way all through your round regardless of the scores. If you have hit driver off a tee the first three days you do it again. You have to stay in the zone and not change anything. You are inviting in unwelcome thoughts if you change your approach based on potentially winning.

    Look at Rory at the weekend. He didn't change his club at the 18th, he hit what he hit every day that week. Look at almost every winner of a tournament and you'll see the same thing. Shane hit an iron, 15th or 16th, a couple of weeks ago and made a mess of it. That was his mistake, he should have continued to play as he always does.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭joficeduns1


    His 3rd shot on 4, after hitting the fairway bunker lip, was pure class to get it to the front of that green. If he had two putted it for bogey I think he plays a different round afterward with some good momentum from the save but anyway.

    He played with fire trying to make a similar recovery on 11, made another double instead and spiraled from there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,118 ✭✭✭Trampas


    Putter was stone cold today. One 20 footer. After that nothing outside 5 feet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭tobsey


    don’t know if it’s been said here yet but he’s pairing up with Koepka for the Zurich next week



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,282 ✭✭✭billy3sheets


    Do players get to arrange pairs themselves for this competition?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 695 ✭✭✭GolfPar




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,431 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭joficeduns1


    He has set himself a high bar for pairings, only picking multiple-major champions (Harrington, McIlroy, and now Koepka).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭RoadRunner


    Interesting pairing. Their mannerisms, culture, backgrounds, etc are all so different. I don't think you couldn't pick too people more different, but both winners.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭joficeduns1


    Seems to be a pretty simple genesis for the pairing.

    "...on the list of popular Tour-pro hangs in the neighborhood is Michael Jordan’s swank club, Grove XXIII, which is where Lowry and Koepka played a round together a few months back — and where Lowry popped the question.

    “I said to him, ‘I might need a partner for New Orleans’” Lowry said. “He goes, ‘Well, I’m going to have to play there.’ That was it.”

    It's fair luck for Lowry, he likely has to play the event due to sponsorship so if Koepka wasn't available I wonder who he would have ended up with. Let's hope they go well together.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭coillcam


    Fitzpatrick brothers will be an interesting pairing. Matt is in huge form obviously and Alex won his first event on DP tour a few weeks back.

    I wonder how Shane and Koepka will gel. A real power pairing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭paulos53


    -4 through 5 with his own ball. He hasn't needed any help from Koepka yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,282 ✭✭✭billy3sheets


    "…if Koepka wasn't available I wonder who he would have ended up with."

    Seamus Power perhaps? Seamus is currently on -9 after first round with Schmid, 3 ahead of Shane and Brooks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 42,997 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    First time ever I wanted Shane to have a bad day. I just don't want the cretin he's playing with to ever have a good tournament result.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭AlanWatts




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭Dayor Knight


    Is Koepka that bad? Anyone who can't stand deChambeau can't be all bad….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,620 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    Is that his nickname? No wonder Shane paired with him 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭paulos53


    Looks like a missed cut for Lowry and Koepka. They finished on -9 which is the current cutline but it will almost certainly go out to -10 or -11



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,118 ✭✭✭Trampas


    33 teams make cut so not looking good for them. Never good for an event organisers and tv companies if marquee players don’t make it to the weekend



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,720 ✭✭✭Barnaboy


    That was really poor from them. The depth of field is stunningly bad, missing the cut basically shows that neither of them really gave a shite.



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