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Need Advice re DPF

  • 15-02-2026 07:57PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,060 ✭✭✭


    We bought a 22 Hyundai Tucson last August. When test driving, I felt there was a slight sluggishness in the lower gears. Garage told me it hadn't been serviced which would sort that. So I waited and drove again, it was better but not perfect but I thought that it was likely just a different feel from our other car. So we bought it. We drive it around a small town sometimes but mostly it's some country or long distance driving. The DPF light just keeps coming on so we're out driving motorways trying to knock it off. Recently, it came back on and then the engine failure light too. We brought it back to the garage. They said we had clogged the exhaust so much that it took them several attempts (and 5 days) to manually clear it. I wasn't wholly happy with this as I don't believe we do all that much town driving but I took it and said thanks. Thursday, it was driven across the motorway. Sat it was driven over and back the length of the m50 and then into our local town (about 7km in total). Today, I went onto a country road so around 70km p/hr but not stop/starting. Felt the pull in 2nd gear early on and the DPF light comes back on and then the engine failure. Surely, this is ridiculous? This car cost in excess of 40k so we need to get it sorted. CAn I ask advice on a) what is normal for DPF filters and b) what steps we should take with the garage now? Thanks.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭BlakeS94


    Jimmy is your man. Nothing else to say.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭hhmmm?


    Just want to get an overall picture here.

    Did you buy it in a main dealer?

    Has it been back to a main dealer with this issue?

    A main dealer wouldn't waste 5 days trying to clear a blocked DPF, you would be given a price for a new one.

    You have miscalculated the length of the M50 in your post which could leave the rest of your story open to question.

    Also, DPFs should not be regenerated on "country roads" as you put it and 70kph is quite slow to do this, were you doing a regeneration or did the warning just appear?

    If you are doing the mileage stated on the motorway then it should be enough to passivly regenerate.

    Finally, I hate when people say "the car cost €xxxxx" so it needs to be fixed.

    So what how much you paid for it, there are cars way more expensive than yours that break down every day, the cost of the car has f all to do with how it will be looked at in the workshop.

    Post edited by hhmmm? on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,420 ✭✭✭PukkaStukka


    There could be an underlying issue with the engine that's preventing it from regenerating properly. Take the car to a decent independent for a diagnostic check and see what fault(s) that throws up, plus a check on live data to see what the DPF differential pressure is, soot content plus other things like distance since last successful regen, no of failed regens, mass airflow, water temp and so on. A good tech will know exactly what to check.

    I fixed a recurring DPF issue with my brother's Vivaro which was caused by a faulty brake light switch partially sticking on, resulting in the ECU logging brake / accelerator correlation faults. That stopped it regenerating and clogged the DPF because with that particular system, it will not regenerate with any active faults detected.

    The other thing to check is the exhaust tail pipe and see if it's black with soot. If it is, it's highly likely the DPF is cracked internally, which I'm told some of those particular Hyundai's are prone to



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,502 ✭✭✭youtheman


    Not sure what part of the country you are in. But for DPF related issues I can recommend Kennedy's Garage in Portlaw, Waterford. Look him up in YouTube. He does a lot of Mazdas, but not exclusively. If he can't sort it out then nobody can!.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,420 ✭✭✭PukkaStukka


    Peter Kennedy is excellent but it's wrong to suggest if he can't fix it, nobody can. There's plenty of very good and capable independent techs like Peter out there who "fly below the radar" because they don't have a social media presence!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭buzzing147


    Just wondering, 17 skoda superb my dpf light came on for first time last week, I took it for a 30 minute drive in lower gears, the light then went off, wondering now whether to get it checked at a garage tomoro, it should of stored a fault? Or keep driving and hope it stays off!? Any advice welcome



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,277 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    A general mechanic won't have a clue about how to properly read DPF codes



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭buzzing147


    Ok so maybe go to a dpf cleaning place? Although I know of somebody who got that done and the dpf cracked. Thought a general mechanic would be able to advise and check codes on PC



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,277 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    It probably just needed to do a regen. I wouldn't worry about it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭buzzing147


    Thanks, was hoping that's the case, do a lot of short runs and noticed radiator cooling staying on good bit after park, did a longer run in lower gear once seen light on and checked manual, must of did a regen cause light went out on way home earlier. Seems be driving fine



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,277 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    Yes fan staying on means it was trying to regen and failed due to you switching the car off



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,372 ✭✭✭kirving


    The DPF light just keeps coming on so we're out driving motorways trying to knock it off.

    I don't blame OP for trying this, it's often touted online as the fix, but DPF regen cycles have so many dependencies on a modern car, that even if you follow the manual's advice (below), it won't necessarily work.


    Even the Tucson manual is contradictory in it's own advice. It says "may stop" and "stops". The latter is much more definitive.

    When the Malfunction Indicator Lamp(MIL) blinks, it may stop blinking after driving the vehicle:
    • at more than 60km/h (37 mph), or
    at more than 2nd gear with 1250 ~2500 engine RPM for a certain time(for about 25 minutes).
    (4-16)

    The Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF) lamp stops illuminating, when the driving speed exceeds 60 km/h (37 mph), or when the engine rpm is between 1,250 and 2,500 with the gear in the 2nd position or above for approximately 25 minutes

    (9-89)



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    on my diesel I have a button I can press that shows the state of the DPF and how full it is. when a regeneration is happening a pop up message appears on screen, stating that the DPF is regenerating, and the number of bars count down until it is complete. do other cars not have this feature?

    my one can run on HVO100, so I use that as it produces a lot less soot than regular diesel.

    I notice that a DPF regeneration at lower speeds completes faster, than one at motorway speeds.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,277 ✭✭✭✭User1998




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,087 ✭✭✭UrbanFret


    Get it cut out and remapped. End of your worries.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭buzzing147


    yea been doing that this few weeks, longer more aggressive drive today hopefully sorted it, seems be going fine now must of did regen 👍



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,277 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    Absolutely no need for that just yet. It's very expensive to do nowadays so a waste of money at present



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,372 ✭✭✭kirving


    Until the NCT begin testing for particulate…

    It's been recommended by the EU for a number of years now, so will only be a matter of time before it's introduced.

    https://citainsp.org/2023/03/21/eu-commission-recommendation-on-pn-measurement-for-pti/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,212 ✭✭✭9935452


    Its meant to be coming in in 2027. .

    If they do there will be a lot of cars in trouble



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,060 ✭✭✭yellow hen


    UPDATE: So after a recurrence of the issue, Hyundai finally replaced the fuel injectors (under warranty). No issues since.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭buzzing147


    Light came on again and drove went off, slightly juddery, took it get diagnostic mechanic said it's at 16gr not too high but prefer lower, and it did a regen itself, didn't have to do a force regen. Maybe a long journey the car needs? I'm just doing short trips this past while



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,277 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    Yes, long drive required. Make sure you have adequate fuel level and engine temp otherwise it won't regenerate



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,420 ✭✭✭PukkaStukka


    Nope. Not good advice generally and certainly not in this instance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,420 ✭✭✭PukkaStukka


    Be curious to see what fault codes - if any - were there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭buzzing147


    There was no fault codes stored, only light on car was the dpf one which went out after I drove in lower gear for while. Dpf did a regen that time, and has a 16gr reading



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 Fancy_ward


    It's true that diesel particulate filters don't like short trips, that's a fact. However, after a thorough clean (especially if the service centre spent five days working on it), the warning light shouldn't come back on after just a couple of days. This is a clear sign that the problem is more serious. If I were you, I wouldn't just settle for a routine clean. And ask for a full diagnostic check, including looking at the DPF readings (pressure and fill level) and checking the sensors and EGR. If they suddenly suggest replacing it, you don't have to do so right away. I sometimes look at parts on Autodoc, for example, just to get an idea of prices and options, but that’s for later, once it’s clear exactly what needs replacing. They clearly haven’t found the root cause here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭BlakeS94


    If you read the post you'll see OP commented saying the main dealer replaced a set of injectors and no issues since.

    Also aftermarket DPFs are known to give trouble they don't have the same amount of precious metals and the substrates are usually lesser quality.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,212 ✭✭✭9935452


    You pay half price you pay twice.

    Genuine dpf for bmw was 1500 a while back. Spurious could be bought for 350



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭buzzing147


    My dpf light on skoda superb came on again took it for long 2 hour drive it went off then after 30 mins or so, felt a juddery feel, maybe trying to regen. Took it to mechanic month ago, he checked on pc, it did a successful regen but levels at 12gr a bit above average, I'm afraid of it going into limp mode but hopefully that long run yday helped it, that twice the light has come on🙄



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