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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,711 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    I need to get back to that. First 2 hours didn’t quite grab me but I know that was only the tutorial and you won’t be sweeping chimneys after a few hours.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,000 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    I took a look at Lumines and Chronos, think I'd bounce off them fairly quick. Crimson Desert looks way too big for what I'm looking for at the moment. Mafia Old Country is leading the charge at the moment but Potential mentioning there's a lot of watching and conversations is a bit off putting but if i really didn't like it, I'd only be down a tenner.

    Bloodlines 2 is very tempting but I'd say expectations would have to be kept well in check.Have Dispatch flagged though for down the line. Thanks lads, much appreciate the advice!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,095 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    I've used the sweep function twice. That was one of them! And I'd say the first 10 hours are the tutorial, but I'm still learning new stuff this far in. And more to come. Plenty time needed for CD. And it's about to have another major free update soon, mainly focusing on end game content but more decent QoL improvements. It'll be some game by the time they're done. But to note, even before the first update, it was a complete playable game. It's only been refined since, and at a savage pace.

    Re: Mafia, I reckon its about 50/50 interactive and watching/listening. It's a good game overall though. Well presented and acted.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 55,024 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Boards.ie user: All the games I have do nothing for me. I need an exciting game to grab me and not overstay it's welcome. Something exciting.

    Ace Combat 7: **just chilling, quietly being arguably the best action game since Revengeance**

    Boards.ie user: I think I'll play that 7/10 game with 3 hour tutorial and gameplay stretched thin over 40+ hours and get bored by it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,848 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Boards.ie user: I think I'll play that 7/10 game with 3 hour tutorial and gameplay stretched thin over 40+ hours and get bored by it.

    Which game is that? I'm also looking for something to tide me over for a while and that sounds perfect



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 55,024 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    I think it's just me.

    It's like when I ask the wife if we can watch the Pitt and she then we end up watching some NETFLIX harlan coben shite.

    I'll try a different approach and tell you all not to play Ace Combat 7.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,848 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    In all seriousness though, currently playing through Pragmata, about 3 hours in. It's decent. The hacking is a fun addition and they achieved a great balance of it being really important to do, enemies being generally slow enough to allow you to do it, but also giving you decent mobility and dodges if you need them or if you get swamped. Level design is linear but enough side paths for upgrade materials that encourage exploration.

    Also great that the story of the game as a whole and the relationship between Hugh & Diana is pretty fun, with no weighty "She's a substitute for my own daughter" or anything. I'm sure there'll probably be some sort of story development as it progresses, but for now it's just spaceman and robo-girl killing some robots.

    That said, even just 3 hours in, I fear the game has likely played all its hands at this stage, and I don't really see the gameplay evolving that much beyond a few new weapons and hacking abilities and some different enemies. Partially my own fault as I probably explored a bit too much and a lot of my abilities are already maxed out or fully upgraded. But I also think it's meant to be quite a short game anyway, so I'll keep going. The gameplay is still fun and the game looks beautiful. I think at its core, it's not trying to be anything monumental or emulate deep storytelling from other games. It's just being a fun videogame and recognises that that's all it needs to be.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,000 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


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    hmmm



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,000 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Ding ding ding we have a winner. Decided to go with Grounded as i had been very interested when it first released and then forgot all about it as it wasn't on PS. Looking it up again and it looks right up my street/garden.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,000 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    I will say, watching Harlan Corben over The Pitt should be a criminal offense.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 55,024 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    I'm looking forward to Pragmata but I'll have to wait until pay day to pick it up.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 31,616 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    I’m waiting to play Pragmata in the classic 360 era AA way: on sale a few months after release.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,848 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    The only Harlan Corben show I watched on Netflix years ago actually reminded me a lot of video games, because there was an on-foot chase scene and every time the camera cut or they ran from one room to another, the distance between the people in the chase changed so dramatically that all I could think was "F*cking rubberbanding…"



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 55,024 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    One I watched was set in the UK and your wan in it was a retired soldier and like all retired soldiers not living in the US she had a stash of gun in her closet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,095 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Sounds like i can happily confirm I've no idea who Harlan Corben is.

    Also, all the daddy daughter references I'm hearing about Pragmata is actually putting me off. I don't get those feels so it'll probably feel forced and will not tug on my all black heartstrings. May be one to wait for PS+ inclusion. Not that I'll have time any day soon, but think I'll crack into Hades 2 after CD.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 55,024 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Seems to just be the usual outrage merchants online starting this looking for clicks and they can be safely ignored.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,095 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Oh, I don't mean the pedo stuff that has popped up. I mean the genuine reviews who loved the game but emphasise the daddy father/daughter thing. Some games lean on feelings I'm not and never will be familiar with. This could be one. Saying that, it's a short enough game so i might pick it up as a palate cleanser after CD.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,848 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    If anything, the game subverts the usual father/daughter relationship and really doesn't focus on it at all (or at least not so far anyway and from what I've heard of the full game from reviews). So far she's more like a robot companion like BD-1 from the Star Wars Jedi games but who talks and occasionally acts amazed when Hugh describes what life on Earth is like.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,636 ✭✭✭Cordell


    My advice is to stop caring about gaming journalists and their reviews and their hot takes and focus on simply enjoying the games.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 55,024 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    You say that like Legend of Dragoon doesn't exist. Nobody can enjoy that game.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 31,616 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    As in the game critics have almost universally praised?

    The ‘hot takes’ I’ve seen shared of Pragmata have all been mocking screenshots of random paid blue tick lunatics on twitter dot com reading the stupidest possible things into the game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,636 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Days Gone also exist, and everyone can enjoy that game.

    All the reviews I need are no comment gameplay videos, I'm not interested in people doing reviews as a job, I don't care if they like it or not. I'd rather trust a review from a boardsie than anything from IGN or Kotaku.

    There are articles in the mainstream gaming outlets with some really sick (not hot, but sick) takes on this game and gamers. I'm not going to link any, but know it's not just random lunatics from twitter.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 55,024 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    If you trusted a review from a boardsie you'd have played Ace Combat 7!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,636 ✭✭✭Cordell


    *puts on straight face* but of course, it's at the top of my backlog.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 31,616 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Good for you. Personally I think anyone cutting off criticism entirely is doing themselves a massive disservice. I don’t mean in terms of lazy hot takes - I mean in the sense of cutting off criticism an invaluable source of curation, recommendations and insight.

    I couldn’t count the number of fantastic games I’ve discovered thanks to a smart, articulate critic going to bat for it in a review, social post or podcast discussion. These are often small games without much of a natural marketing or publicity footprint, rather than just a big budget game everyone has heard about anyway. And then a good, well written review can help me collect or formulate my own thoughts by offering an invaluable alternative or well articulated perspective.

    Plenty of bad writing out there too - I’m sure there’s some about Pragmata. But I can easily filter that out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,848 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Reading or seeking out reviews also doesn't mean you have to take their word as gospel. They're an indication, particularly when they come from reviewers whose previous reviews or opinions have aligned with your own (because these things will always be subjective both from the reviewer and the individual).

    I've played games reviewers I like recommended and I didn't like them. I've played games they haven't liked that I have. I've agreed with them in their opinions even if I've weighted the importance of those opinions higher or lower than they have.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 31,616 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Yep: I often find a positive review / criticism of a game I dislike or a negative review of a game I do like often offer the most valuable perspectives, and help me understand the game in question better than I would’ve otherwise.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 55,024 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    This. It can often be enlightening to read these opposing views to your own. It can make you understand how people can like Days Gone despite it not being Ace Combat 7.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,636 ✭✭✭Cordell


    I'm quite the opposite: with subjective matters like games film and music I find very little value in other's opinions. Especially in this day and age when too many of these opinions are not purely based upon the games themselves. And for me the final straw was the reviews of Crimson Desert which tanked the company stock and likely hurt the game initial sales.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,848 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Maybe the game should have just been better at launch.



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