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Tesla Talk 2

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 213 ✭✭Wolftown


    Try a new business quote with Aviva.

    My renewal was up about €60 and NB quote was only €20 up on last year so I went with that. That was a Model 3 but I imagine same will apply in your case.

    I checked other insurers too but all were much more expensive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,672 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    So wait your saying Tesla have reported zero accidents ?

    No i didn't see that can you link the report ?

    This sounds on any metric to be complete fabrication. Send on the link there i can't wait to pull it apart with public Twitter posts of this not being true.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,116 ✭✭✭JOL1


    Sure it is "timely" and associated with todays Investor call and designed to show (and be able to say) that it is (has already) expanding to other cities and I think that any company would try to do similar in terms of PR.

    The reality is that it is early days for an emerging technology and as a result you expect slow pace to learn, test and improve before broader roll out…this is prudent rather than something to be criticised. Surely there is space for "Positive PR" to showcase progress towards a major strategic goal that is heavily scrutinised by Investors and adopting a slow cautious approach…they are not mutually exclusive. I would adopt the view that it is a "positive spin" as opposed to what you call "a scam". Investors are well used to an overly optimistic view that is often articulated by the CEO of Tesla yet seem to be exercising their belief in Tesla delivering long terms value as evidenced by the PE multiple.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,672 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    The use of camera based technology to self drive driverless cars with or without paying passengers on the open roads is a scam.

    The rest of your post just describes how they are using people lack of understanding of the limitations of this technology to fluff the markets. Something that doesn't seem to have worked because they made gains before those gains were then extinguished.

    On any metric it appears the proclamations from musk seem to be finally wearing thin with the investors.

    Camera technology analysis for image generation has a part to play in this place but is ridiculously exposed as being the primary driver for decision making.

    Funnily enough I just bought and upgraded my robot lawnmower..you'd never guess what technology is in the most expensive and accurate ones. I'll let you have a guess ....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭Mr Q


    Waymo are doing millions of miles per week. How many miles has Tesla done in that 12 months?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,382 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    What metric shows that his proclamations are wearing thin ?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭cunnifferous


    Every time I see that P/E ratio I'm astounded.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,672 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Not sure if your aware of how stock price works. But look at the ytd.

    Despite you and others proclaiming how well they are doing in Q1 rebounding sales.

    How robotaxi is the future.

    How FSD approval in Netherlands is a huge win.

    How it's not a car company but it's bigger.

    We aren't seeing a return to lofty pricing. Your own graph shows this.

    I mean what was the point of that ?

    His proclamations are wearing thin. Fairly obvious . He plays the same yarn every time but sure there's always some that might swallow it. He's a genius after all and anyone that thinks he isnt doesn't understand his greatness (or is just a peasant) 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,382 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,382 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    First off listermint id ask you to try and be civil, your attempts at condescension are petty and there is no need for it, over the last few weeks you've questioned my ability to read, to comprehend and now ' how stock price works ' , I won't stoop to that level but rest assured I know , and I'd warrant a lot better than you.

    First off where have I been proclaiming about how well they are doing ? There was a poster here who posted as much negativity as he could find online around sales, I've posted similar more recent articles that show a change in that, he's nowhere to be seen but I've not proclaimed anything ?

    Secondly when have I said robo taxi is the future ? I have said self driving is, I've never said it will definitely be Tesla that cracks it.

    Fsd approval in the NL is a huge step forward, you said your self it wouldn't happen. It has.

    I haven't engaged in much other chat about what the company is or isn't.

    You are claiming that every metric shows his proclamations are wearing thin, the share price has increased over the last year, I asked you what metrics are showing what you claim and instead you tried to make a personal attack and then attribute a load of stuff I've never said to me .

    We aren't seeing a return to lofty pricing ? Id argue the current price is hugely lofty, do you disagree ?



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,579 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    This will annoy a few 😂😂

    CT in Dublin.

    Taken from Facebook


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,672 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Hardly , it's illegal.

    More fool on whomever brought it in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,672 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Let's agree to not chat on these subjects.

    Because we're clashing alot. No Bueno



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,062 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    I was in that Cybertruck last week, awesome machine when you climb into it.

    Gets ferried to/from Tesla locations on a truck because none of the staff are allowed to drive it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,382 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus




  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,579 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,672 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    TBF that's not triggered. It's a vehicle someone spent a fortune on that the can't drive anywhere in Europe. It seems like a ridiculous waste of money , unless Tesla brought it in to sit in their showroom. That's a different story .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,062 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    That's exactly what it's for.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭Mr Q


    They had one here previously, first half of 2024 I think



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,930 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    They often bring it on tours. I saw it in Dundrum a couple of years ago.

    Point to note, it is not illegal.

    What is illegal is to import a new one, or for the OEM to sell it here. That's where the legality ends.

    There is nothing to stop anyone buying a +6 month old with +6k km on the odometer and importing as a used model. In fact, Ireland would be a perfect country to do this in, as we do not do any checks beyond checking the odometer, vin & the prior title, and gives you a registration plate. In the uk (or most other EU countries) you have to pass a roadworthiness legality test to get the plates. Here you get the plates regardless (I did this a few years ago, got my reg plates for a 2500 Chevy Suburban still with red turn signals and no fog light for instance.)

    Interesting point to note, the suburban was longer (3 inches) and almost as wide (~1 inch) as the cybertruck.

    I'm watching as the prices stateside come down, I'd love to have one here! If only to flash my valid V5C and NCT/CVRT disc at everyone claiming its "illegal"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,146 ✭✭✭✭MJohnston


    I think maybe a year ago you might have triggered someone with that, but I reckon these days you'd just have a lot of people giggling about you behind your back



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,579 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo




  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,579 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,062 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Pretty much.

    Noo more, no less.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,930 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    They are still north of 50k USD (so probably 80-100k landed and VRT). Fortunately, since they are not EU CoC approved, it will default to M class vrt (so 7% for zero emissions). Even if revenue classed it as 100k value that's still only 7k vrt

    So for a 55k USD price, it would be (~€50k cost + €1k shipping to port + €3.5k shipping RORO + €12.5k vat + €6.75k customs + ~€7k VRT) approx €80k landed here.

    Not bad but still too much for me.

    I'm doing some wiring diagrams here already! The only issue I see with getting an NCT (as it would default to class M, an NCT not a CVRT would be required) would be the red rear turn signal. They are 48V which makes it worse.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭antseanoifig


    Nice call - the new business quote is about €100 less than the renewal price.

    Fully mirrored my statement of fact from their current cover, to the new business quote. Go figure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,062 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    It's a game, designed to catch out sleepy customers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,672 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    How is here different to the UK where they won't or don't seem to issue any road worthy certification for that vehicle ? Going as far as to seize one last year that couldn't pass their test, so the owner tried driving it anyway for the police to take it.

    How would a cybertruck pass these tests in Ireland ? Genuine question . As I think your comparison with your American truck is flawed. It doesn't have the same serious safety implications on it's exterior .

    Just wondering how your assuming it will get certification for that classification without simply guessing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,930 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    UK - IVA needed before registration. None of the cars were on UK plates, they were foreign reg cars being driven illegally by UK residents. Similar to driving a car on foreign plates here, you cannot do so as a ROI resident.

    ROI - no IVA needed to register a used car, all you need is a title/reg showing prior registered for more than 6 months and that there's more than 6k km on the odometer. Once you have that you can get the car on ROI plates. The issues then come with NCT but that's post registration. Big difference. The key is you cannot register a NEW car as per revenue rules in this way, only a USED one.

    The comparison was valid as neither car is type approved for the EU. It doesn't need any certification to be registered. The only certification it needs is a NCT or DOE once registered, but the only issues there are the standard red rear turn signals, fog light, and headlight beams.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,930 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    And to play devils advocate of course there is always guesswork when no one has attempted this before, however this is based on my prior experience importing multiple US cars and reading the appplicable legislation. Therefore I know the process on the ground as well as the legality

    FWIW I also asked chat gpt and it agreed with me. If you like those kind of things.



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