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Liverpool FC - Talk /Gossip/Rumours 25/25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,097 ✭✭✭Fromvert


    Keepers

    • we sit tight

    Defenders

    • Robertson out
    • Tsimkas back in
    • Jacquet in plus another CB (Senesi on a free makes lots of sense)

    Midfield

    • No outs, give MacAllistar the benefit of the doubt he can bounce back back.
    • New starting DM/CM

    Forwards

    • Salah out
    • Chiesa out
    • New starting RW
    • New RW / CF versatile player

    That's 3 extra bodies vs what we have now.

    Big expectations on Wirtz and Isak to step up next year.

    Get the RW and DM/CM right and we're in the mix again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,300 ✭✭✭Appletart Upsetter


    Pep last season?

    They were absolutely terrible and lost 9 games in the league.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,171 ✭✭✭Bacchus


    Ok Chelsea might be looking out of the race but Brighton are now the threat. We must beat Palace to keep the upper hand.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,530 ✭✭✭jones


    I agree that us getting top five means the powers that be are more than likely going to keep Slot for next season but I think it's a mistake.

    If there were any green shoots this season I'd be all for giving him another shot at it due to Jota etc but there really hasn't been. We just look like a team who doesn't have a plan (or can't execute whatever plan it's supposed to be). We don't press effectively, we don't play counter attacking football. At times it seems like all we do is pass sideways and backwards and hope for mistakes. Too many players have gone backwards under Slot and whatever message he's trying to get across is either terrible or he's not able to articulate it to them - either way it's bad news as this team as a unit just don't work.

    I actually think keeping Slot now is a bit like United keeping Ten Hag when they won the FA cup. A funny thing I've noticed with my own mates is any who aren't Liverpool supporters hope Slot stays which again reminds me of my own hope with United when they had ten hag or Amorim. When opposition fans want your manager to stay on its grim.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,768 ✭✭✭Girly Gal


    We play Brentford at home on the last day of the season, we could and really should have CL football for next season secured before that match, in that scenario if Slot is leaving in the summer I'd imagine it would be announced in the lead up tithe Brentford match, so that he can get a proper send off, but, if we still haven't secured CL football before that match, no announcements will be made until after the Brentford match. I really wouldn't be surprised what way the club go with Slot, the club are going to continue to show their support publicly right up until they decide they want to change.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 649 ✭✭✭bdmc16


    I completely agree it's likely a mistake but slot was brought in to not just take over from the best manager we ever had in the Prem which was almost an impossible task in itself but also manage the incredible challenge of the changing of the guard as legends like robbo, Salah, VVD Ali moved on from the final leg of their liverpool careers. For both those reasons he was always going to be given alot of room for transition.

    I don't think in Edwards or Hughes minds they have even remotely considered sacking him this season especially winning the league last year. There's always a real issue that Hughes and Edwards have to admit they got it wrong hiring him and the signings were off so collectively the 3 of them are in this project together.

    I'm supporting Liverpool a long time and I barely reacted when VVD won at Everton in the 100th min. That's how much slot has ruined watching Liverpool for me so I don't see him turning it around as grateful as I am for last season. Hell keep us there about in 3rd to 5th place next season but thats it and yet that seems to be enough for powers that be which is very frustrating but there's phenomenal potential in that liverpool team.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭riddles


    He wont be there next season, it'll be an amicable parting. They'd have trouble shifting expensive tickets otherwise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,593 ✭✭✭jesuisjuste


    I think at this point, what the management can say about Slot is that he can at least provide a form that will secure champion's league football, and perhaps get reasonably far in the champions league, QF or even SF with a bit of a lucky draw. Similar to Wenger's last few seasons. They may also be seeing next season as transitionary, and will keep slot in place even if it's unlikely we'll compete for a trophy. With 2 leagues, and two CL in going on 36 years, this is not unreasonable from a business/finance point of view to have one more year of this. The problem is there will be an attrition of fans, probably a fair few of the recent glory hunters at a minimum, and lower amount of people will want to watch the games if this continues, although I'm sure the stadium will mostly still sell out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭riddles


    Your point is well made on being happy with CL footie from the powers thst be. However, next season represents a chance at a league title by replacing Slot. United will have a new manager and City plus Chelsea and Arteta win or not is possibly end of the road at Arsenal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,370 ✭✭✭✭Osmosis Jones


    Poor quality screenshot but here's a damning stat Sky Sports flashed up last night, we've been outrun in 29 of our 33 games this season

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    We can count ourselves lucky in our Top 5 race that the only team worse than us are Chelsea.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,796 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    I'd actually sell MacAllister.

    Given the sheer amount of football he has played over the last number of years, and hard running during those games too, his legs look like they might have gone and there's no coming back. Maybe that injury he got at the end of last season is a contributing factor too, or maybe he is saving himself for the World Cup this summer. But he seems to have lost something, with no signs of it returning.

    MacAllister has that physical nature to his game, but getting around the pitch is proving to be difficult, which gets exposed in the PL. He would probably still excel in a slower more technical league like Spain or Italy.

    He's also being putting in the hard yards at International level, always travelling long distances and making himself available and playing, even when carrying a knock. He wants to play for his country, which should be commended, but it doesn't help us!

    He's played the World Cup in 2022, the Copa America in 2024 and now the World Cup again this summer. No break this summer, when he really needs one. He didn't really get a break in 2025 as he was trying to recover from that back injury. I think we should let someone else deal with that fitness issue that is coming in August 2026.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 443 ✭✭Robert2014


    I assume we sell Jones before McAllister this summer. Only one year left on his contract, academy product so any transfer will be added as pure profit on the balance sheet. I would keep Jones, as a squad player he offers a lot, home grown, local boy, can play in a number of positions. No squad can be full of stars, need a few water carriers too. However it depends on what he wants in his new contract. Can't be a water carrier on superstar money.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,796 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    Jones is academy grown and is good enough for the first team so he is absolutely needed for the squad in terms of PL HG players, and UEFA academy trained players.

    Kelleher, Quansah and Trent have left in recent years, and with Gomez's future up in the air, losing a 6th first team quality player in 2 seasons is far too much. I think Bradley is the only academy grown first team player left that count in UEFA rules. the rest are not good enough, or too young, so the squad size gets reduced as a result.

    Jones is a necessity to keep for this reason alone, in my eyes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,261 ✭✭✭Talisman


    Wolves have an obligation to buy for £26m but that may be contingent on them not being relegated.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,407 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    If Gomez and Jones go then Bradley, McConnell and Bajçetic are the 3 currently listed as first team players who would be homegrown and club trained, and as you say the latter 2 are likely not good enough....though I'd expect one will stay for numbers. There's others in the academy like Kaide Gordon and Luke Chambers but those are not realistic options.

    On the flip side though we have been signing u21 players like Rio, Leoni, Nyoni, Jacquet who are much better than what has been coming through the academy and are first team squad players. The first 3 of those will eventually be homegrown and club trained. Pécsi is similar to Jacquet in that he's u21 for next season but non-HG the following.

    But if we didn't have players u21 at first team level it would make the squad places more valuable. Having quality in the squad who essentially don't take up a spot (I know the List A rules for UEFA make it more complicated) helps both with not needing all spaces taken up meaning we can be more flexible and opportunistic in the market along with making sure those u21 players have a pathway to play instead of having 25 squad players ahead of them and them being an afterthought



  • Administrators Posts: 56,565 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cvg0y9vg60po

    We should be all over this guy like a rash if there is any chance at all he'd leave Madrid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 366 ✭✭The Subliminal Verses




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,000 ✭✭✭Ottoman_1000


    He’s in the middle of contract negotiations with Real. Apparently, he wants a minimum of £350k a week, and I can’t see us offering anything close to that. That’s why he’s being linked with United, they’d definitely match it if he’s willing to go



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 422 ✭✭CajunSurprise


    If Chelsea don’t get any kind of European football I’d like the see the club try for Caicedo again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 471 ✭✭Libertine07


    Isn't he on a ridiculously long contract? Like most Chelsea players.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,812 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    He just signed a contract extension in the last few days didn't he?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,000 ✭✭✭Ottoman_1000


    Yes, up until June 2033. He aint going no where.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 488 ✭✭505_


    Salah on more than that and it will be off the books in the summer. Think VVD is on 350 too. Isak/Wirtz probably not too far off. So wouldn’t automatically rule it out based on wage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭SodiumCooled


    He has a real nasty streak to him, don't think I'd like him at the club.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 428 ✭✭redoctober


    Think we'd be crazy to get rid of Jones. I'd keep Gomez too. We need a few like them in the squad. Jones hasn't been too bad at times this season. He's not a first team choice but he's a decent option from the bench and to rest others. He is also versatile. Gomez likewise, but his injuries are a worry. Still think it's worth having him as he can fill in at times as long as we're not depending on him. But if he can fill in for a few games here and there it allows us to rest others. Was a mistake getting rid of Kelliher too (did he count as homegrown?).

    I think in addition to the squad rules, it's good to have some British &/or Irish players in the squad/team. Otherwise, players don't relate to the crowd and there becomes a disconnect. Milner and Henderson had that homegrown mentality. Fans want to see players who care about the jersey and not just an imported player getting paid millions and rolling about on the grass every five minutes. Too much of that in the modern game. Think you need a balance in the squad. Some players to tell guys to grow up etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,596 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    The only thing about Jones is he might want to go,the rumours in January is that he wanted to be guaranteed more playing time. I hope he does stay because he is a great squad option and would be hard replace in that sense of things



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,812 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    Some Matteo Moretto is reporting that Alisson and Juve are nearing a verbal agreement on him joining. The usual twitter accounts running with it now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 471 ✭✭Libertine07


    He's reliable for Italy apparently.

    Very worrying that all of our leaders (bar Virgil) look set to walk out the door.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Dr Robert


    The wage bill is being culled. It's off the charts so I get it.

    Allison is injured more than he plays unfortunately. It's a shame.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭SodiumCooled


    p45 for Rosenior. When Chelsea appoint a new manager that will be 10 managers this season between Spurs, Chelsea and Forrest! Insane stuff and shows sacking mangers is far from the far away green fields some would imagine.



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