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General Premier League Thread 2025/2026 - See Post #1 for Mod Note

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,521 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    it’s a legal process not a premier league disciplinary process. Complex legal processes take huge amounts of resources and time to resolve when they go their full length. Rushing it is not an option and if it were it would be a terrible option.

    Angelina jolie and Brad Pitt filed about 8 years ago. The case is still in court. And this is a good bit more complex.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 32,684 ✭✭✭✭Mars Bar


    It's not dropping off. They are building a full living community down the road from me with the city name all over it

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,761 ✭✭✭BenK


    I understand that. It still reflects very badly on the league that the process appears to be just drifting along as it puts an asterisk beside the whole league. Angelina and Brad's case only affects them so who cares how long that takes.

    I'm not saying it's the premier league's fault it's drifted along, and I'm hardly saying to rush it, but a lot more complex things have been resolved in less than a year and a half.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,521 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    it’s not really drifting along, it’s being resolved. It’s just takes time and can’t be rushed and that isn’t the premier leagues fault. People just need to be patient basically.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,819 ✭✭✭jacool


    Don't we know! I have my hand poised over that e-mail to ask her out, but I don't want to upset "due process" !



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,962 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    City has clearly made every effort to frustrate and delay the process. The Premier League's failure to bring them to account is a stain on the league's brand and standing. If City do go on to win the league, it will be (rightly, imo) shrouded in conversation around the charges. So yes, legal processes can take time, and the outcome needs to be airtight. But it is absolutely fair to say that the league is failing in its endeavour here. The timeline around a legal process is part of the legal wrangling - the league is "losing" on this point, which seems a fair thing to say.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,761 ✭✭✭BenK


    I disagree, I think it's very much drifting along. I suppose nobody knows really what is happening with it and I'm sure it is being resolved in some way, everyone would just like to see what that resolution is at this stage.

    It may not be the premier league's fault but it creates a lot of uncertainty around its product and competition.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,962 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    Most football fans are driven by tribalism. There are very few adult City fans about, but plenty of Arsenal fans. If Arsenal win/lose, there are slags to be thrown around. If City wins, everyone can brand them as cheats and move on. It was the very same experience for Liverpool fans the last few years - it is what it is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    Spurs going down would be the biggest shock in English football since Leicester winning the league?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,257 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    Spurs finished 17th last year why would it such a shock to finish one place lower.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,817 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    Yea they've been septic for two years now. How are they financially? Would they survive the drop?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,521 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    There’s no real solution to legal processes taking a long time. The premier league’s integrity maybe is taking a hit with the wait but they brought a case that was clearly going to be extremely expensive against a group for whom money is no concern so that’s to their credit .

    At the end of the day, lives aren’t at stake. Maybe just relax a bit and be patient. There’s more important things in the world.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,819 ✭✭✭jacool


    @kowloonkev The last thing this big going down that I recall - The Kowloon Bridge :) Bigger financial losses, mind!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,040 ✭✭✭McFly85


    Nobody really cares about City winning because it feels very artificial, and there are very few fans about to celebrate it. I would probably prefer to see Arsenal winning it but really, as a neutral they are not an easy team to get behind. The games I’ve seen them in, by and large, have been an awful watch(yesterday being the exception which was a pleasant surprise), attritional affairs dominated by set pieces and antics that skirt the laws of the game.

    So I don’t like either of them. City because they’re bad for the game of football and Arsenal because they’re bad for football as a spectacle. I’m not rooting for either, the only thing left in the league this year I find any way interesting is seeing if Spurs actually get relegated now that the CL places look almost sewn up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,013 ✭✭✭Dr Robert


    City now favorites with bookies and exchanges.

    Unreal.

    Arsenal were 1/10 on betfair exchange at the end of March.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,013 ✭✭✭Dr Robert


    Nobody wants Arteta to win it. Although it would be funny to see City mess it up now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,028 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Spurs played well at weekend. That 2nd goal for Brighton was a giveaway.

    Spurs in trouble now though no question

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,040 ✭✭✭McFly85


    If West Ham don’t beat palace tonight then they’re probably gone - only other fixture I could see them getting points out of is an already safe Leeds on the last day.

    Spurs could get wins against Wolves, Leeds and Everton if they play like they did against Brighton.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,817 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    The odds on Arsenal/City winning the league never made any sense. With the game at the Etihad and the game in hand Arsenal were only ever one loss away from the situation they find themselves in now. I thought city were mental odds at 4/1 a while back and then they drifted out to 8 or possibly higher. Of course being an idiot I did nothing about it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,817 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    Do Spurs not have six points since the start of January, all draws? They'd want to start turning up if they want to actually win a game.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,382 ✭✭✭the whole year inn


    How have they delayed the process. The charges are over a 9 year persiod, so they had 9 years to develop a case against them . City as far as I remember it took them 9 months to get their case together and then the hearing took 3 weeks which is now completed and now waiting for the verdict which City has no involment .

    So am I missing something what have they done ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,788 ✭✭✭IncognitoMan


    I stand by the statement a lot can change in 20/30 years.

    That complex can be rebranded at any stage, so it having a City badge on it currently doesn't mean much.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,788 ✭✭✭IncognitoMan


    I mean some of the charges that were originally brought against them were for failing to fully cooperate with the investigation
    So they at the very least delayed it there



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,408 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    In a couple of generation's time nobody will care about how City got their titles, just that they have them.

    Apathy to them winning is what they want, that's why sports washing works.

    The only way to combat it is to strip them of titles if they cheated the rules, otherwise they remain there forever and it's all worth it

    I hope they collapse this season and I'm no Arsenal fan. Was even happy with Real Madrid knocking them out a few weeks ago



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,521 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    I think the smoking gun of the case is a cache of released emails that were leaked to a German newspaper that were incriminating. So that was the point at which a case started to develop, not when they were starting to win trophies. Open to correction but from memory I believe that’s the genesis of this case. So it goes back to when those were leaked which I think was around 2021 or so



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    Well yes I think it would. Not a shock on sporting merit but a shock that a club their size go down, and that they were warned last year and didn't rectify it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,382 ✭✭✭the whole year inn


    So basically to do there job for them . I completely agree with City on those, If they want to bring a case against them then let them do the heavy lifting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,746 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    well, no, a requirement of being a part of an association with rules and regulations is to supply requested documents showing compliance with said rules and regulations. Which every other club does. Which City refused to do.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,521 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    Chelsea told on themselves when the new owners saw secret off book payments to players representatives.

    Everton didn’t contest charges when put to them.


    so your argument is fairly watery.


    I hope the city project goes down in flames as it’s clearly built on wholesale cheating but this idea that the premier league is in the dock for not being able to wrap up the process quickly is simplistic and I’ll leave it at that



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,521 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    it’s also ironic that Gary Neville is one of the strongest critics of the premier league over the lack of a binding decision from the judiciary when he tried to threaten the premier league by organizing the withdrawal of man United’s England players from international duty over their banning of Rio Ferdinand and his missed doping test



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